Hi Vincent,
I think I know what happens in my main TW: it is the CSS stuff I use.
I wanted a fixed position for a topmenu and for the TiddlersBar. I use
this layout in other TWs as well, see e.g. my TW about the history of
the area I was born: http://www.tongerner.tk/. It is in Dutch but that
does not matter for the layout :)
To display the tiddlers correctly I shifted the displayArea downwards
and extended it to the left since there is no MainMenu anymore:
------
#displayArea {
margin: 1em 15.5em 0em 1em;
position: relative;
top:54px;
left:0px;
}
------
That worked great until I tried the View Mode Editor v1.62/1.63 :)
With that I got the shift mentioned in my last post.
After some thinking and experimenting I got it working (with View Mode
Editor) by splitting things up:
------
#displayArea {
margin: 1em 15.5em 0em 1em;
}
------
and
------
.tiddler {
position: relative;
top:54px;
left:0px;
}
------
The focusing borders are now correct in my main TW, but I noticed some
strange things:
1) I cannot edit the Title of the tiddler. It works in a MTC, but not
in my main TW.
The following is in the StyleSheet of my main TW and I suspected the
text-shadow.
------
.title {
font-size: 2em;
font-weight:bold;
color: [[ColorPalette::PrimaryMid]];
text-shadow: 2px 2px 4px #999;
padding-bottom: 6px;
}
------
To my surprise it is the font-size in 'em' that is problematic; a font-
size in 'pt' does work!
2) With he the View Mode Editor v1.63 enabled in a MTC there are
focusing borders around tables and block elements but also around the
tags, but not around the tag box (surrounding the tags) and also not
around the toolbar area.
After disabling the plugin, all focusing borders are gone.
With he the View Mode Editor v1.63 enabled in my main TW there are
focusing borders around tables and block elements but also around the
tags, around the tag box and around the toolbar area.
After disabling the plugin, all focusing borders remain; only editing
is not possible!
Anyway, from now on I'm using v1.63 in my main TW :)
Cheers,
Ton
On Apr 28, 5:36 pm, Vincent Yeh <qmo.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ton,
>
> You could be right about the positioning issue. I'll compare the layout of
> my TiddlySpace and local TiddlyWiki files to see what comes out. Thanks.
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:15:37 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> > Hi Vincent,
>
> > I am glad you disabled the focusing borders when TWtid has been disabled.
> > You are right, I like v1.6.3 even more :)
> > Unfortunately I can't use it (or v1.6.2) on a daily basis in my main TW.
>
> > The Viewmode Editor plugins work good in a MTC, but they don't work
> > correctly in my main TW while Table Editor v1.4.6 does work correctly with
> > the same TW.
> > The focusing borders, the edit box, the preview box and the 'table
> > modyfying' box (< x >/CXP) are all shifted downwards (about 2.5 lines)
> > Two examples for a table are given in the screen shots, but the same
> > downshift occurs with all block elements.
> > N.B. It is the same for v1.6.2 and v1.6.3
> > I suspected a plugin problem.
>
> > My main TW uses the following plugins:
> > DropDownMenuPlugin
> > GotoPlugin
> > ImageSizePlugin
> > ImportTiddlersPlugin
> > InlineJavascriptPlugin
> > ListFiltrPlugin
> > NestedSlidersPlugin
> > QuickEditPlugin
> > QuickNotePlugin
> > QuickOpenTagPlugin
> > RenameTagsPlugin
> > SaveAndReloadMacro
> > SearchOptionsPlugin
> > SimpleMessagePlugin
> > TWted.min
> > TWtid.min
> > TabEditPlugin
> > TableOfContentsPlugin
> > TableSortingPlugin_TB
> > TagSearchPlugin
> > TagsplorerMacro
> > TiddlerTweakerPlugin
> > TiddlersBarPluginMP
> > TiddlyFileImportr
> > ToggleTagPlugin
> > YourSearchPlugin
>
> > But when I disable all plugins - except TWtid and TWted - the downshift
> > stays.
> > May be it has something to do with the layout of my TW (CSS stuff for
> > fixed position of my Topmenu and Tiddlersbar).
> > I'll try to investigate it further.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Ton
>
> > On Friday, April 26, 2013 3:29:58 PM UTC+2, Vincent Yeh wrote:
>
> >> Ton,
>
> >> I am very glad that you like v1.6.2. I hope you will like v1.6.3 even
> >> more (because I do).
>
> >> TWtid v1.6.3+TWted v1.6.3. (No changes made to TWtcalc 0.8.1)
>
> >> Bug fixes for transclusion support, edit the macro command as well as
> >> the transcluded content (see
> >>http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BTransclusion%20support%5D%5Dfor
> >> details), better focusing border behavior, etc.
>
> >> See release note athttp://
> >>http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BRelease%20Note%20v1.6.3%5D%5D
> >> download links, test cases and other info.
>
> >> Have fun!
> >> Vincent
>
> >> On Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:50:50 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> >>> Hi Vincent,
>
> >>> I think about replacing Table editor v1.4.6 (which I use daily) by
> >>> this version; it means I like this version very much.
> >>> Testing with Win7 64-bit, FF v20.01, TW v2.71, TWtid/TWted v1.62,
> >>> TWtcalc v0.81.
> >>> 1) Backstage button visible again.
> >>> 2) The list item is now correct.
> >>> 3) Table editing works good.
> >>> Some - minor - points:
> >>> a) After e.g. row/column editing (insert/copy/paste rows/columns) you
> >>> cannot edit the cell contents directly; you need to leave the "table
> >>> area" and re-enter this area to enable cell editing again.
> >>> b) When using the arrow keys to go from one cell to another, there is
> >>> different behavior using "->" (step from cel to cell with content
> >>> selected) or "<-" (step first from character to character in a cell
> >>> and then to the other cell).
> >>> c) By disabling TWtid and TWted (no checkmarks in option panels) stops
> >>> editing possibility but leaves the area boundary marks of table and
> >>> block elements (an arbitrary viewer of my TW does not want to see
> >>> these).
> >>> In the "old" table only editor v1.4.6 I used Simon Baird's
> >>> ToggleTagPlugin to toggle the systemConfig tags to disable editing and
> >>> get rid of the H, C and E buttons.
>
> >>> Cheers,
>
> >>> Ton
>
> >>> On Apr 19, 6:46 am, Vincent Yeh <qmo.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > TWtid v1.6.2 + TWted v1.6.2 + TWtcalc v0.8.1
>
> >>> > Ark, Yakov, and Ton,
>
> >>> > I think I had fixed the incorrect list item and incorrect positioning
> >>> > issues. Please check and see. The Error in macro <<tabs>>, <<slider>>,
> >>> > <<tiddler>> should be fixed too.
>
> >>> > Also fixed some bugs in options panel and added support for IE 10.
>
> >>> > See release note athttp://
> >>> twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BRelease%20Note%20v1.6.2%2B0.8.1...for
> >>> > download links, test cases and other info.
>
> >>> > Have fun!
> >>> > Vincent
>
> >>> > ps. There was a tiddler explaining the positioning issue made
> >>> yesterday but
> >>> > now gone, possibly due to the recent hardware failure in TiddlySpace.
> >>> Will
> >>> > make it again later.
>
> >>> > On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:31:08 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> >>> > > Hi Vincent,
>
> >>> > > Some initial testing with Win7 64-bit, FF v20.01, TW v2.71, TWtid/
> >>> > > TWted v1.60, TWtcalc v0.80
>
> >>> > > 1) Cannot reach the backstage (backstage button not available) with
> >>> > > all 3 plugins "activated" (systemConfug tag)
> >>> > > Without the 3 plugins "active" the backstage button is there.
> >>> > > With only TWtid active the backstage button disappears
>
> >>> > > 2) Example "Transclusion support" gives an error in all the
> >>> > > transclusion cases:
> >>> > > Error in macro <<tiddler>>
> >>> > > Error in macro <<slider>>
> >>> > > Error in macro <<tabs>>
>
> >>> > > Clicking on the error shows:
> >>> > > Error while executing macro <<tiddler>>:
> >>> > > TypeError: b.tiddler is null
>
> >>> > > After removing the systemConfig tag of all 3 plugins the
> >>> "Transclusion
> >>> > > support" tiddler does not show errors anymore and works as expected:
> >>> > > everything is transcluded.
> >>> > > =================
> >>> > > Upgraded to TWtid/TWted v1.61
> >>> > > 1) Disappearing backstage button remains.
> >>> > > 2) No errors anymore in "Transclusion support" example.
>
> >>> > > I had a quick look at both examples. Most things seem to work.
> >>> > > I did notice the strange behavior with the example of Yakov:
> >>> > > -------------------
> >>> > > * [[TWtid.min]] -- "wikitext manipulator"
> >>> > > * [[TWted.min]] -- "editor"
> >>> > > ----
> >>> > > Some more text
> >>> > > -------------------
> >>> > > I will test further and report.
>
> >>> > > Cheers,
>
> >>> > > Ton
>
> >>> > > On Apr 15, 2:55 pm, Yakov <yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > > > Hi Vincent,
>
> >>> > > > tested with all other plugins set off and then the same with
> >>> versions
> >>> > > > 1.6.1: the behaviour is almost the same
>
> >>> > > > понедельник, 15 апреля 2013 г., 6:10:02 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent
> >>> Yeh
> >>> > > > написал:
>
> >>> > > > > Yakov,
>
> >>> > > > > Thanks for the quick reply. What you found with the list items
> >>> was
> >>> > > > > possibly fixed in the version 1.6.1 just uploaded. I tried
> >>> locally
> >>> > > your
> >>> > > > > example tiddler below with the latest FF 20.0.1 and Opera 12.15
> >>> over
> >>> > > Win7
> >>> > > > > x64 and Win XP. It seemed the list item issues you mentioned
> >>> here are
> >>> > > gone.
> >>> > > > > Please try again and let me know if there are more to fix.
> >>> Thanks
> >>> > > again.
>
> >>> > > > > Some of the issues, however, I never had before and now (see
> >>> below).
> >>> > > Maybe
> >>> > > > > conflicting with some addons?
>
> >>> > > > > On Monday, April 15, 2013 6:54:15 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:
>
> >>> > > > >> Hi Vincent,
>
> >>> > > > >> воскресенье, 14 апреля 2013 г., 14:11:02 UTC+4 пользователь
> >>> Vincent
> >>> > > Yeh
> >>> > > > >> написал:
>
> >>> > > > >>> TWtid v1.6.0 + TWted v1.6.0 + TWtcalc v0.8.0
>
> >>> > > > >>> There were quite some bug fixes and much improved transclusion
> >>> > > support.
> >>> > > > >>> Edits plain text in addition to block elements. Removed manual
> >>> mode
> >>> > > and
> >>> > > > >>> flying C buttons, etc.
>
> >>> > > > >>> Indeed, backstage is back again and DefaultTiddlers are
> >>> displayed.
> >>> > > One
> >>> > > > >> small detail: second-level list items are displayed as
>
> >>> > > > >> * item text
>
> >>> > > > >> instead of
>
> >>> > > > >> ** item text
>
> >>> > > > > I didn't have this issue, though. Not sure what was wrong.
>
> >>> > > > This one seems to be gone, or may be I even have mistaken because
> >>> of the
> >>> > > > "wrong selection of a list item to edit" issue. Two "*" appear
> >>> where
> >>> > > they
> >>> > > > should be.
>
> >>> > > > > (in Opera) In FireFox I have this strange positioning issue like
> >>> Arc
> >>> > > does.
>
> >>> > > > > I got the correct position both on- and off-line. Did you have
> >>> the
> >>> > > > > positioning issue with local files?
>
> >>> > > > I meant a local file, couldn't get any editor box online.
>
> >>> > > > >> Great news that plain text is being conquered. But the
> >>> situation of
> >>> > > > >> bugs/behaviour is complicated, so let me continue my post in a
> >>> > > "follow-me"
> >>> > > > >> form.
>
> >>> > > > >> First, I create a tiddler "New Tiddler" with the following 5
> >>> lines of
> >>> > > > >> content (in a TW with vanilla theme -- PageTemplate etc, only
> >>> some
> >>> > > > >> additional CSS):
>
> >>> > > > >> Beginning
> >>> > > > >> * [[TWtid.min]] -- "wikitext manipulator"
> >>> > > > >> * [[TWted.min]] -- "editor"
> >>> > > > >> ----
> >>> > > > >> Some more text
>
> >>> > > > >> As I click on the first list item, I get an edit area and a
> >>> preview
> >>> > > of
> >>> > > > >> the second one. If I edit it (say, change to "* [[TWted.min]]
> >>> --
> >>> > > > >> "editor"+") and press
>
> ...
>
> read more >>
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