Hi Elizabeth, Your project sounds very interesting. I have thought before that TW would be excellent for a "choose your own adventure" type book - I used to be obsessed with a series of books called "Fighting Fantasy" when I was a kid.
If you decide to stick with TW classic, you should probably download the latest version, check it works and then try importing the tiddlers from your old wiki into the new one. If you decide to try TW5, I'm sure everyone here would be happy to help. Personally I have decided to commit to using it and trust that it will eventually have all the features that I "need" for my project (I am writing a textbook) I think it would be great for somebody who is completely new to TW5 to write a plain English guide to doing the basics without going "under the hood". Once you've learned how it all works it's easy to forget what it looks like to people who haven't. I hope you get it to work. Regards, Richard On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:45:41 PM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: > > Thanks Daniel & Richard, > > I haven't seen the TiddlyQuickly site, so I'll have a read. If I can > figure this out before I get too frustrated, I may even write my own > tutorial (unless it's reinventing the wheel, since it looks like there's a > few people collaborating on this). > > Amongst my many past times, I'm an online game designer, and I'm using the > wiki to design a story-based non-linear game. An example is something like > this: http://cinders.wikia.com/wiki/Cinders_Wiki <-- mind, that's the > underlying structure, not the front end. > > What I need to do is change up the navigation, then add dialogue and plot > archs that link to one another, etc. It shouldn't be that hard with base > TiddlyWiki functionality. I have an older version of TW (not sure which it > is) that I keep getting errors on upon opening. > > Thanks again for the help; I'll check out those sites. > > Warm regards, > Elizabeth > > > > On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 2:35:32 PM UTC+10, Daniel Baird wrote: >> >> >> >> In addition to Richard Smith's comments, I think it's worth noting that >> (in my estimation) TW5 is being build from the inside out -- technical >> architecture first, then getting the fiddly inside bits right, then the >> nice friendly bits will come on after. So I think it's okay for it to be >> "unfriendly" now, where it expects you to twist some metaphorical wires >> together to switch things on and off. >> >> My expectation is that in the near future, the (equally metaphorical) >> nice carbon fibre panels and the dashboard with switches and dials gets >> added, and there will be a much more pleasant "Initial Experience". >> >> If anything, the thing that's trickiest is that tiddlywiki.com goes to >> tw5 and not the prior tw version. >> >> ;Daniel >> >> >> >> >> On 6 August 2014 11:33, Elizabeth Blythe <para...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I just want to say thank you for all of the help. >>> >>> I also want to express that, while I honor the work that went into this >>> - gosh, thank you for creating a project flexible, for free, for anyone >>> walking along with an internet connection - I'm disappointed with some of >>> the design choices in TW5. >>> >>> The thing I loved about TiddlyWiki to start off with was that it was in >>> plain English, you didn't need to know how the wiki worked to tailor pretty >>> much every aspect of it, you needed very little information about its >>> structure (there were enough crumbs within the wiki itself to figure out or >>> find anything you didn't know) within past TiddlyWikis that they had a lot >>> of utility for non-tech people. I've been chipping away at TW5 for about >>> four days now and have barely figured out how tags work. The documentation >>> I'm reading doesn't really seem to help me figure out what I want to know, >>> the TiddlyWiki itself reads like Greek, and I'm seriously worried that I >>> will be unable to use TW5 for the project I had in mind. >>> >>> TW5 seems to have moved away from being a layman's highly configurable >>> and transportable notebook - now, I need to find and use special >>> characters, figure out where those things are and how they work, and >>> actually get a help websites and group support to tell me how to do >>> things... on the past TiddlyWikis that I used, I was up and running with >>> really complex work in maybe thirty minutes at the outside, and I never had >>> to join a community to get help. It let me focus on what I was using the >>> wiki for, not have to learn how to use the wiki. >>> >>> Maybe I'm too impatient or something, I don't know, but I think >>> TiddlyWiki5 went way right field of what made it appealing to the average >>> Joe in the first place. It's a shame that IE, Firefox and Chrome these days >>> seem to hate my older version of TiddlyWiki, so I can't use that either. >>> >>> Please understand that I don't mean any of the above to be intentionally >>> nasty or over-critical; I just wanted to raise the point constructively for >>> consideration. Like I said, I deeply appreciate the work that's gone into >>> this, and that I even had the option of using TiddlyWiki. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> - Elizabeth >>> >>> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:14:12 PM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Elizabeth, >>>> >>>> Have a look at [1] >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Ton >>>> >>>> [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ >>>> >>>> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:38:29 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Elizabeth >>>>> >>>>> There's a list of system tags here: >>>>> >>>>> http://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTags >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> Jeremy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Elizabeth Blythe <para...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, Richard! >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a comprehensive list of system tags and what they do >>>>>> somewhere? >>>>>> >>>>>> Once again, thank you! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:47:58 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can add a tab to the sidebar by making a new Tiddler, eg; "Table >>>>>>> of Contents" and giving it the tag $:/tags/SideBar. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:13:37 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I used to use an older version of TiddlyWiki, so I'm used to being >>>>>>>> able to define what goes into the navigation links (which are now on >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> right). I can't imagine this functionality has been removed... but I >>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>> seem to find any HowTos on the website that tell me how to do this in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> newest version of TiddlyWiki (or even TiddlyWiki Classic). It is most >>>>>>>> likely a language barrier because there's a lot of jaron and content >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> search through... anyway. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've spent last night and tonight trying to figure out how to >>>>>>>> modify the navigation topics to insert the header, then sub navigation >>>>>>>> points I want. How do I do that? Is it no longer contained in a >>>>>>>> special >>>>>>>> system tiddler? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the help! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Elizabeth >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jeremy Ruston >>>>> mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Daniel Baird >> objoke: I had a problem and decided to solve it with threading. 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