On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 9:44:20 AM UTC+1, julien23 wrote: > > Great to read we have a (too) many temporary solutions left so we'll > survive this time again. >
Why temporary solutions? Most of them are *optional* solutions. It depends on your usecase. For me it's nice to have a choice. The problem is. That it's difficult for newbies to decide what they should use. Or what they need. .... We need to improve this situation. > But ... let us strip down this discussion to the very basics. > > TW was : > > - Standalone > - Multiplatform > - Futurproof > - Easy to share > > Leaving aside workarounds, we lost it all. > That's not true. The only thing we lost, is a little bit of convenience. ... TiddlyFox is just a convenience option and it can be replaced with: file-backups and savetiddlers browser AddOns. TiddlyWiki is still - Standalone. ... 1 file, that can handle many of your notes. - Multiplattform ... It runs on any platform, that implemented a decent browser. .. eg: My TV can handle it nicely. - Futurproof ... html is still a text format. As long as there are programs, that can read text files, we can extract the information. For me that IS future proof. - Easy to share ... send an file per email is easy, and most users can handle it. > So what is the clear long term plan ? > > 1. Follow browsers evolution, no extensions needed nor about:config > tweaks. > (download saver ?) > > This won't happen anymore. Browser vendors have some valid security concerns and no protest whatever will change their opinion. Especially since they already did give developers a lot of possibilities to handle files. ... Not 100% the same things we had. But ... "close enough" to be useful. see: file-backups: https://github.com/pmario/file-backups for firefox... chrome version is planned. savetiddlers: https://github.com/buggyj/savetiddlers for firefox and chrome for TiddlyFox replacements. > > 1. > 2. Not follow browsers and embed TW own viewing/editing application. > (Tiddly Desktop, Server ?) > > There are several options. ... BUT they are not "simple" enough. ... Simple = Install ... Click to save ! This said thanks again to developers, and I hope we'll be able to use TW > for decades coming ! > I'm sure, we will :) have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ab921c9c-a83c-4e4e-ab8c-00372905de96%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
