Jim,

If I get you right, you want to compare the 10MHz outputs (not the
1PPS). As Jim and Bob told us so far, the thing is to provide, that
input A _always_ starts before input B (or the other way around).

Connect the signals to an oscilloscope, and check, how much the phase
differs - if the rising slopes occur close together, put some
meters/yards of coaxial cable into one of the two signal paths. 1 meter
is roughly worth 5ns - while the period of 10MHz is 100ns, 1m cable will
phase shift about 18 degrees. I didn't verify, if the coax cable (with
it's microphonic effect) affects the ADEV - does anybody have experience
with this? Otherwise I'd have to fire up my counter and have a
measurement on the run...

Of course, inverting one signal will do as well. If you do it with extra
electronics that definitely will affect the ADEV. I find it much easier
to use some meters of cable.

Ok, my counter is heating up by now...

Volker


Am 22.02.2014 14:17, schrieb Jimmy Burrell:
> I need some help with a 'noob' question regarding some practical examples in 
> some of the NIST literature. When attempting to compare two clocks, I'm a bit 
> confused on the subject of exactly how to use my counter to compare a delayed 
> clock relative to another. Or perhaps I should just say 'comparing two 
> clocks'. Let's take some concrete examples. 
>
> Let's say I want to characterize my Morion MV89 ocxo using my HP5335a. 
> Obviously, I can tune the MV89's 10MHz by +/- 1Hz and feed it to the 
> counter's input 'A'. Obviously, I can feed in a second, external reference 
> clock at 10MHz into input 'B'.  Suppose, however, I didn't have an external 
> reference clock. Can I compare against the counter's internal time base by 
> hooking a line from the rear jack time base output to channel 'B' input? Or 
> am I making it too complicated? Do I simply plug into input 'A' and go?
>
> In a somewhat related question, in this article 
> (http://www.wriley.com/Examples%20of%201%20PPS%20Clock%20Measuring%20Systems.pdf)
>  where two clocks, both divided to 1PPS, were compared, W.Riley makes the 
> following statement, "The two 1 PPS outputs were connected to a Racal Dana 
> 1992 time internal counter having 1 nanosecond resolution, and the start and 
> stop signals were separated sufficiently in time for the counter to function 
> properly".  I wonder what exactly is meant by "separated sufficiently in time 
> for the counter to function properly" and how one would go about doing this? 
> For example, is inverting one of the signals sufficient separation? If not, 
> how is this typically done? Delay line?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jim...
> N5SPE
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