Hi,

In HP5370A/B you mux sources. In SR620 there is a lockup PLL, as far as I remember.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 05/09/2017 01:11 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote:
Hi

If you grab the schematic of pretty much any of these counters, you find a 
fairly common approach.
Somewhere inside is a VHF oscillator. The internal TCXO, OCXO, or Rb acts as a 
phase lock source
for that VHF oscillator. Typical PLL bandwidths are pretty low (10’s of Hz). 
When you put in an external
reference, it acts as the reference to the same PLL.

This does a couple of things. You take care of spurs on the external reference. 
That is the same
thing you do locking up a VHF oscillator to your GPSD for microwave work. You 
get the long term
accuracy (1 second and out) of the external reference. Your phase noise (and 
thus broadband mask
jitter) is improved.

Does every counter on the planet work this way? - of course not. Somewhere 
somebody did it a
different way. As long as they *did* do it this way, the internal reference 
does not matter once you
switch to an external standard. Even if they did it in some other way, if they 
did it right, the same
statement would apply.

Bob

On May 8, 2017, at 9:02 PM, Tom Knox <act...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi All;

How important is the standard, medium, or high stability reference in counters 
like the 53230A, or FCA3120 when locked to an ultra low phase noise external 
reference? Particularly when making measurements and adjustments on other ultra 
high performance references?

I know Agilent sold 53132A counters with an option (H01 I believe) that 
bypassed the internal reference completely when and external reference is 
applied, but I think standard configuration on most counter is to discipline 
the internal reference.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Thomas Knox

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