Hi

> On Jun 14, 2018, at 9:31 AM, gandalfg8--- via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> 
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> Hi Julien, 
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> Earlier replies that discussed removing the DC supply from the 8140 outputs 
> gave me the impression your requirement was to connect directly the outputs 
> of the 8140 without line tap modules, which is what I was addressing with my 
> recent suggestion of a series capacitor, but can see now that's not the case.
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> If you were to build your own termination the same principle would still 
> apply of course but perhaps another option for a reasonably compact solution, 
> aside from a coaxial DC block followed by a 50 ohm termination, might be a DC 
> blocking attenuator followed by a BNC shorting dust cap, as the latter are 
> generally quite small.
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> For example, current Ebay item 332461304064 is a DC blocked 20dB attenuator, 
> they are also available in pairs at a slight discount, and that fitted with a 
> shorting cap would give you a return loss of 40dB, which is probably as good 
> as you'd get from most 50 ohm terminations anyway and would save having to 
> build your own.


I would be very surprised if the original terminations did any better than 20 
to 30 db return loss. They are not fancy devices.
I’ve also seen a lot of attenuators that only make it to about 20 db of return 
loss …..

Bob


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> The VersaTaps phase lock an internal crystal, any frequency between 4 and 
> 20MHz, to the 10MHz input and then provide an output at the crystal frequency 
> or the crystal frequency divided by a fixed integer between 1 and 8,192, so 
> in that sense yes they're a synthesiser but the few I've seen were still 
> supplied preset for a specific frequency.
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> However, "versatile" does not necessarilly mean quick or convenient to 
> reprogram.
> Aside from perhaps needing  to change the crystal the division ratio needs to 
> be set by adding or removing links across pairs of holes in the circuit 
> board. Those holes are on a standard 0.1inch pitch so fitting headers that 
> would take shorting links should be straightfoward enough, and I suspect what 
> was originally intended, but the units I have were supplied preprogrammed 
> using resistor style wire ended zero ohm links mounted above the circuit 
> board and soldered from below. Reprogramming one of these would involve 
> unsoldering and perhaps removing all the connectors etc in order to remove 
> the circuit board, so I'd certainly make darn sure they had headers fitted 
> before being returned to the box!
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> Nigel, GM8PZR
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julien Goodwin <time-n...@studio442.com.au>
> To: gandalfg8 <gandal...@aol.com>; Discussion of precise time and frequency 
> measurement <time-nuts@febo.com>
> Sent: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:36
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8140T Line Tap Schematic
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> I'm somewhat tempted to take the schematic and see if I can fit it in
> the comparatively tiny Pomona boxes, although I have far too many side
> projects already, enough 10MHz taps, and I still need to do the terminators.
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> The VersaTaps are supposed to be an actual synthesizer IIRC.
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