Hi Paul
Can you tell me what might be the different between the microphone
implementation in MicrophoneC inside SoundLocalizer Vs the MicP inside
mts300 ?


Thanks a lot
Akankshu

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Paul Johnson <oewyn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  CVS under /tinyos-2.x-contrib/tinyos-programming/
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> -Paul
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> Martin Osterloh wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> sorry for interfering this thread. But, where can I find the
> sourcecode to the soundlocalizer demo?
>
> Best,
> Martin
>
> Akankshu Dhawan wrote:
>
>
>  Hi Michael and Zainul
>
> Thanks a lot for your response. I am grateful to be hearing from you.
>
> I will look into the corrected mean solution before I suggest some
> hardware changes to my team.
>
> Although, my bigger question was why direct sampling by calling
> getData->dataReady on a free running ADC (this is what is used in
> the SoundLocalizer example in Tinyos-2.x described in the book also)
> responds better ? if I try to do threshold detection of every sample
> using the same interface and direct sampling I get values which are
> very responsive and high rate of sampling. I know I am loosing on
> some precision by sampling at a rate other than the default
> ATM128_ADC_PRESCALE but since I am mainly using it for thresholding
> I think my application can handle it.
>
> Can you tell me some comparison between the microphone setup used by
> the MicP and MicStream compared to the SoundLocalizer direct
> sampling setup ?
>
> Thanks a lot once again
>
> Sincerely
> Akankshu Dhawan
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Michael Schippling
> <sc...@santafe.edu <mailto:sc...@santafe.edu> <sc...@santafe.edu>> wrote:
>
>     I suspect that the straight averaging thing is not what you want.
>
>     I haven't looked at the mic data, but it's sampling an AC
>     signal (sound wave pressure alternates between compression
>     and rarefaction at the frequency you perceive) and is probably
>     biased so a no-pressure signal is pretty much in the middle of
>     the ADC range. Averaging that AC signal over a number of high-low
>     pressure waves will just give you the middle again.
>
>     If that is the case, what you want to do is rectify the signal --
>     half-wave would just chop off the samples below the mid-value,
>     full-wave would invert them around the mid-value -- before
>     trying to average to get a "loudness". If you are trying
>     to get the "Sound Pressure Level" -- how loud the sound is at
>     any particular time -- it's called "Envelope Following" in the
>     good old days of signal processing. If you know any electronics,
>     what you want to build is a diode or diode bridge, to rectify
>     the signal, and a capacitor to filter, or average, it to a slowly
>     varying DC value.
>
>     MS
>
>     Akankshu Dhawan wrote:
>
>         Hi All
>         I am using two mechanisms for high sampling.
>         1. Using MicStreamC and changing the prescalar value inside
>         MicP to ATM128_ADC_PRESCALE_32 and the gain value is set to
>         64. I create a buffer of 1000 samples and every time the
>         buffer gets full I take the average and print it out. The
>         problem is that the microphone does not seem to be
>         responding or is not showing me sufficiently precise values.
>         The average when I dont make a noise is around 500 ADC.. and
>         even if I am clapping shouting (for long durations) it still
>         shows me slightly */lower values /like 497 etc. So I am not
>         sure why this is so ?*
>
>         2. When I created the low level interfaces on my own using
>         the sample SoundLocalizer example in Tinyos programming
>         book, I am giving the microphone ADC a free run at the same
>         prescale setup (there is a difference of some parameter
>         being passed through getData as FALSE in that example which
>         is suppose to cater to LEFT_ADJUSTMENT ) but when I compare
>         the values that I am getting inside dataReady they respond
>         well to sounds. This would work for me but I am just curious
>         why the MicStream does not work. This way I would not have
>         to recreate all the buffer code.
>
>         If anyone can please tell me what setting inside MicSetting
>         or MicP have I done wrong that it is not responding.
>
>         Thanks a lot.
>
>         SIncerely
>         Akankshu Dhawan
>
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