> The motes are big in the size, expensive in
> the price, but I believe in the future the price of those simple motes
> will be $1.

Radio ICs cost over $2 and MCU's are currently in the $4+ range for
ones that can support 802.15.4 and/or TinyOS.

The $1 price tag requires volumes that we aren't even close to
achieving.  The cost you pay for motes include the price of the
components, the cost of designing and manufacturing the board
(remember that someone has to be paid to put the components ON the
board), and the cost of doing business.

> But, the xbow.com MOTE prices are less then anywhere else and with
> more sensors and sensor network products.

Xbow's prices are competitive with many other sensor network companies.

> And also that language nesC and TinyOS are very new, open source, and
> with no completed tutorials. And it is a little bit difficult for me
> to go on fast in my goals.

Xbow and Moteiv offer TinyOS training and tutorials.  Ember and others
offer Zigbee training.

> That are correct public prices. I let you imagine what they are on the
> OEM market.

And imagine what the volumes are on the OEM market!

For a particular application, the cost will be lower by optimizing the
hardware specifically for that application, but what Xbow sells is a
development system with pluggable sensor boards and interfaces.  The
development and general nature adds cost to the device (a 51-pin
connector costs over $2 from digikey!).

-Joe

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 15:26:46 +0100, Dominique Blas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tsenka Stoyanova a �crit :
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Interesting question. J,
> >
> > But, the xbow.com MOTE prices are less then anywhere else and with
> > more sensors and sensor network products.
> >
> > I think this area is in the stage of research yet, not suitable for
> > making market products. The motes are big in the size, expensive in
> > the price, but I believe in the future the price of those simple motes
> > will be $1.
> >
> > And also that language nesC and TinyOS are very new, open source, and
> > with no completed tutorials. And it is a little bit difficult for me
> > to go on fast in my goals.
> >
> > These motes are experimental platform to make and test some algorithms
> > or some ideas of sensor network for certain application like your.
> >
> > If you can find some funding to support you for research in Sensor
> > Networks, you will see it is interesting and fun.
> >
> > But, I think, to make market product with all available motes in the
> > market on this time (not only in xbow.com) is a little bit early.
> 
> As I said before, such products already exist :
> Take a look at the Sylvania products (www.smarthome.com/1129.html).
> and are correctly priced (between $30 and $40 for a module [radio
> included] and $60 for the PC interface).
> 
> Ok, the modules about which I'm talking about (Sylvania) are only switch
> modules but I think next generation will be
> equipped with sensors.
> 
> Rgds,
> 
> 
> db
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