I have always thought it a minor miracle that Seligman was able to
demonstrate learned helplessness in dogs. I think just about any other
species would be able to have learned it quicker. It's not that they
can't learn to perform tricks for rewards; it's that they seem unable to
extinguish a behavior just on the basis of a lack of reward (or possibly
even in response to an aversive stimulus).

Rick 


Dr. Rick Froman, Chair
Division of Humanities and Social Sciences
Professor of Psychology
John Brown University
2000 W. University
Siloam Springs, AR  72761
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http://www.jbu.edu/academics/hss/faculty/rfroman.asp



"Pete, it's a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of the human
heart."
- Ulysses Everett McGill



-----Original Message-----
From: Miguel Roig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:48 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: RE: [tips] Dogs, Porcupines, and Learning theories

You mean like the dogs depicted in these pictures? 

CAUTION: VIEW AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION
 
http://cellar.org/iotd.php?threadid=8836

Miguel



-----Original Message-----
From: Jean-Marc Perreault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:20 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: [tips] Dogs, Porcupines, and Learning theories

An interesting question arose a while back... 

Why do dogs, after biting into a porcupine (which is a very unpleasant
event, with sometimes harsh consequences, <<such as having needles that
are shaped as fish hooks pulled out of the mouth with pliers>> keep
going after other porcupines later on? 




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