Michael Scoles wrote:
> The replies to this question that cite Seligman (actually Overmier and 
> Seligman) and Guthrie have me confused.  The question of what is "learned" in 
> learned helplessness is a problem, but seems to have little relevance to one 
> experience with porcupine quills.  One could make the case that, if the 
> experience stopped the ongoing behavior of chasing and catching a porcupine, 
> Guthrie might consider this as potentially reinforcing.
>
>   
My quip about Guthrie referred to his emphasis on one-trial learning 
(which these dogs weren't doing).
Chris Green
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>
>>>> "Jean-Marc Perreault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/29/07 5:19 PM >>>
>>>>         
> An interesting question arose a while back... 
>
> Why do dogs, after biting into a porcupine (which is a very unpleasant
> event, with sometimes harsh consequences, <<such as having needles that
> are shaped as fish hooks pulled out of the mouth with pliers>> keep
> going after other porcupines later on? 
>
> Would one argue that instinctual behaviour (that of chasing small
> critters) overcome, or even prevent, learning?
>
> I'm quite interested in the answer to that one...
>
> Cheers!
>
> Jean-Marc
>
>   



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