Very nice tirade, Stephen!  :-)

My response to Rikki's story was much the same. Anomalies in the drawing
might indicate some disordered perceptual processing that would be
symptomatic of epilepsy, much as the one-sided drawings of clock faces
are symptomatic of unilateral neglect.

In these cases, the characteristics of the drawings (as a sort of
behavioral output) are interpretable as symptoms. 
Not so of the stories people tell about ink blots (or the stories the
therapists tell about the stories!)

Claudia 

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From: sbl...@ubishops.ca [mailto:sbl...@ubishops.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Wikipedia despoils the Rorschach

On 29 Jul 2009 at 10:55, rikikoe...@aol.com wrote:

> Many years ago, when I worked in a psychiatric hospital for children,
> two of my colleagues discussed some unusual features they had
> observed in figure drawings that seemed to be associated with
> temporal lobe epilepsy.<snip> In fact, he did have temporal lobe
> seizures  

Despite my tirade (as accurately labeled by Bill Scott) against the 
Rorschach, I have no problem with Riki's story.  I have no problem with 
any psychological test, good or bad, which collects objective data and 
tries to make transparent, face, or objective use of them to diagnose.

What I have a problem with are projective tests, of which the Rorschach 
is the prime offender. 

If Riki's colleagues were dedicated projectivists, they would not take 
whatever unusual features they saw in the child's drawings as suggestive

of epilepsy. They would have used these features to make up a fantastic 
story about how traumatic events buried in his unconscious, and 
undoubtedly caused by psychological abuse from his parents, were 
responsible. Epilepsy would be the last thing they would think of. There

are anecdotes of another sort that would make your hair stand on end, 
concerning how practitioners of the psychoanalytic profession 
persistently ignored neurological symptoms of treatable disorders in 
favour of such harmful fairy tales. Patients suffered years of misery as

a result.

No, the problem is not using objective data from tests, but using it to 
invent fanciful tales, which the Rorschach does so well. The problem, as

usual, begins with Freud, and as our resident Freud expert, Allen 
Esterson, will undoubtedly tell you, Freud is a fraud. So is the 
Rorschach.

There, how's that for a tirade?

Stephen

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