Michael Sylvester said he is tired of the demand for references. lol Well that's not likely to change, but I agree that you have a point.
Generally someone makes a point and provides a reference and the point tends to be considered proven and true. Of course the public position of almost everyone is that they don't accept the point as proven and true. But, rather, the point is neither accepted nor denied for now. And everyone will of course claim that they will check out the reference(s) -- as if that is very likely. Or even if they do get around to checking out a reference (again I think pretty unlikely unless they have a specific use for it), how many will thoroughly read and study it to find if the point made is justified? How many (much fewer to almost non-existent I think) will then go on to seek out conflicting opinions and references (and again thoroughly study those) when they already have a bias that the point is true (the example here that spanking is not effective and is indeed harmful, as all the academics know). The inclusion of a reference or two which "settles it" can be a kind of reference to authority. Again though, many will say, yes--but a reliable authority. But again, people can't know this unless they thoroughly read and study the relevant papers (and of course the opposing papers)--which is unlikely to happen. --Mike On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 3:25 PM, michael sylvester<msylves...@copper.net> wrote: > The demand for references to support statements on Tips is beginning to > drive me up the wall.As if the references will give validation to > statements.Baloney can still be baloney despite references.I mean to find > out whether black parents > spank more all what one has to do is to comparative field observations and > gather testimonials. Conclusions can be > very definitive that no statistical analysis is necessary. > Yep,through multiple primary and secondary observations black parents do > spank their kids for misbehavior and the kid may get an additional spanking > by others in the hierarchical extended family. > As the cross-cultural dude(in addition to other accolades) on Tips,the > reason for this differential > is that whites are more likely to experience "guilt" emotions and blacks the > social emotion of "shame". These > are correlates are connected with the presentation of the self.In other > words,black parents view misbehavior as > a violation of their self-ideal of proper versus improper public and family > behavior.White parents are more likely to think in terms of > long terms effects and hence guilt. A white parent will take a child to Toyr > R Us and that child could be throwing a row of toys to the ground and that > wgite woman will tell the child "Honey,why you do that? Mama loves you." > This is not likely to be a response from the black parents.Interestingly > enough Developmental psychologists areresponsible for invocating guilt and > "vague premonitions of disaster" if parents become too disciplinary.And this > was not help by Bettelheim who > blamed parents' behavior for autism.And the guilt began. > Black parents may still adhere to the adage of St.Paul "Spare the rod,spoil > the child." > Send me nothing. > Michael Sylvester,PhD > > --- > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) > --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
