Well we did have that one other individual who was attacking the entire 
enterprise of psychology. Remember, he was "found out" because of his 
well-publicized attacks elsewhere and "moved on" pretty quickly. But 
that's all I can remember in the past 15 years.

On Oct 21, 2009, at 1:20 PM, ku...@plymouth.edu wrote:

>
> True true. I have been on for about that long too. thanks beth for 
> giving me somerthing more to ponder.....
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular
> From:  Beth Benoit <beth.ben...@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:06:51 -0400
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences 
> (TIPS)<tips@acsun.frostburg.edu>
> Subject: Re: [tips] Reclaiming TIPS
>
>
>  John, 
>
> I appreciate your Zen wisdom, and can appreciate the 
> next-year-it-may-be-someone-else concept, but since 1993 (my first 
> year on TIPS), no one on TIPS has ever made the suggestion that 
> someone be removed.  I think that's a pretty good record of tolerance.
>
> Beth Benoit
> Granite State College
> Plymouth State University
> New Hampshire
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:00 PM, John Kulig <ku...@mail.plymouth.edu> 
> wrote:
>>
>>  Claudia .. thanks, you inspired me to throw in $.02
>>
>>  I'm only an amateur when it comes to social psychology, but I am 
>> pretty sure scapegoating always happens in groups sooner or later. 
>> When you study scapegoating (e.g. the French anthropologist Rene 
>> Girard) you realize scapegoats usually bring it on themselves (more 
>> or less), they are never randomly drawn from the population ... so 
>> the group is also a participant.
>>
>>  While I understand the desire to "vote" on whether one person should 
>> be excluded, I will not do it. It feels too ugly to me. ALL groups 
>> end up with someone who we think deserves to be kicked out, but I 
>> would rather try to buck Girard-like "human nature" and fill posts 
>> with other threads. I think it's a signal-to-noise ratio issue. I do 
>> not want to start a tradition of voting on exclusion. I think it is a 
>> bad road to start down. Also, the internet is inherently open and 
>> that will not change unless TIPs becomes a gated community which I 
>> would oppose. That being said, most posters on ANY group will tick 
>> others off sooner or later, and some people will routinely tick off 
>> most everyone. It's the nature of the medium.
>>
>>  FINALLY, let's take advantage of social diffusion. An email stares 
>> at YOU in the face, but it is actually directed at no one person in 
>> particular, it is - electronically - diffused across all members of 
>> the group. Remember the old zen habit of visualizing a person's 
>> comments as an arrow that may be aimed at you, but then flies past 
>> you. One more finally: maybe there is something in human nature that 
>> always itches for a fight. I am (half) mystified why people cannot 
>> resisting responding to posts they want extinguished. If one person 
>> is voted on, there may be another next year and that's not a 
>> tradition I want to see started.
>>
>>
>>  --------------------------
>>  John W. Kulig
>>  Professor of Psychology
>>  Plymouth State University
>>  Plymouth NH 03264
>>  --------------------------
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: "Claudia Stanny" <csta...@uwf.edu>
>>  To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" 
>> <tips@acsun.frostburg.edu>
>>  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:58:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
>> Eastern
>>  Subject: [tips] Reclaiming TIPS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  I am violating my policy of refusing to respond to any post 
>> initiated in response to an inappropriate off-topic post or posts 
>> that use offensive language.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I am saddened that TIPS has devolved into a sandbox of abusive and 
>> semi-abusive posts.
>>
>>  I am offended by the posts that initiate these threads.
>>
>>  I am ashamed of the manner in which some members respond to these 
>> threads.
>>
>>  I have been ashamed of some of my own responses to these threads.
>>
>>  I may yet regret this response.
>>
>>
>>
>>  However, if it serves to assist Bill in his efforts to restore 
>> civility and purpose to the culture of this list, I will take this 
>> risk.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Thanks, Bill, for all you have done to create this community. It has 
>> been a beneficial component of my scholarly community over the years. 
>> If I can help contribute to sustaining that community, I will do what 
>> I can.
>>
>>
>>
>>  At present, I’ve adopted silence as my strategy, but I realize that 
>> this strategy also creates some unpleasant unintended consequences.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Claudia J. Stanny, Ph.D.
>>
>>  Director, Center for University Teaching, Learning, and Assessment
>>
>>  Associate Professor, Psychology
>>
>>  University of West Florida
>>
>>  Pensacola, FL 32514 – 5751
>>
>>
>>
>>  Phone: (850) 857-6355 or 473-7435
>>
>>  e-mail: csta...@uwf.edu
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>  Personal Web Pages: http://uwf.edu/cstanny/website/index.htm
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