I have stayed out of this debate, in part because I tend to lurk often on
TIPS and in part because I see it as counterproductive to spend so much
time conversing about the value of any one member's posts. Regardless of
individual opinion about Michael's, Louis', or anyone else's tendencies
regarding their posts, check your TIPS mail and fully 80% of the posting
involve (currently anyway) a debate about Michael. Yes, good issues are
raised, but generally what is raised (and lowered) most often is the delete
key.
Staying clear until this blows over (again) until the next time it all
blows up (again),
David W.



At 09:56 PM 6/24/99 -0500, Rick Froman wrote:
>The following have all expressed similar sentiments about the 
>posts of M. Sylvester.
>
>Annette Taylor wrote:
>
>I believe Michael's later post about animal culture, with the 
>statement about eventually finding what one is looking for was a 
>side-ways allusion (did I just make a noun for the verb alluding to?) 
>to finding racism where there is none, but if you look hard enough 
>you can find it.  
>
>QuantyM wrote:
>
>Sometimes he is off the wall but his attempts to draw connections 
>among seemingly disparate concepts are usually refreshing.  
>
>Sue Frantz wrote:
>
>Which brings me to how I view Michael (and Louis, for that 
>matter)...
>
>Both are trying to teach us lessons.
>
>Stephen Black wrote:
>
>I think Michael knows this, and has cleverly worded his posts to 
>stay close to the boundary. He's doing this not because he's anti-
>Semitic but because he wants to be provocative.
>
>Now I write:
>
>I now propose a new explanation for why, in some cases, Michael's 
>posts may seem to have some positive effect.  I refer to this 
>explanation as the "Being There" assumption.  I will leave it to you 
>(in Milleresque fashion) to determine why I have called it this but I 
>think any positive benefit that comes out of many of these threads 
>exists more in the mind of subsequent contributors than in the 
>cleverness of the original post.  
>
>Rick
>
>
>Dr. Rick Froman
>Associate Professor of Psychology
>John Brown University
>Siloam Springs, AR 72761
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
David Wasieleski, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Valdosta State University
Valdosta, GA 31698
912-333-5930
http://chiron.valdosta.edu/dtwasieleski

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