Ah! Our good friend Allen is indeed a non-psychologist scholar! Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Allen is a mathematician by training and trade.
How little we know about each other. I'm trying to meet tipsters when I travel and had coffee with Allen in London a few summers ago. BTW I may be teaching at Oxford for a term in spring 2012. I'm also hoping to get to New York and meet some tips friends in New york next summer. And although Michael may not remember, I was among the AP readers who watched his DJ gig in Daytona. Annette Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Joan Warmbold wrote: I've noted this phenomena also Allen and my hypothesis has been that it was the esoteric, complex and inaccessible nature of Freud's theories that appealed to intellectuals. Ironically, I suspect that intellectuals are more easily seduced by the style of his presentation--i.e., degree of eloquence and complexity that prevented them from perceiving the underlying use of "rhetorical strategies." I've also noted that, in general, east coast intellectual publications, as per the New Yorker, still appear to be enthralled with Freud's. Has there ever been a non-psychologist scholar who has challenged Freud's theories? Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu Allen Esterson wrote: > An interesting (and potentially psychologically informative) question > in relation to Freud: How is it that so many eminent intellectuals and > scholars failed to recognize the dubious aspects of Freud's writings > throughout much of the twentieth century? > > Walter Kaufmann > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Kaufmann_(philosopher) > wrote in *Freud Versus Adler and Jung*, volume 3 of his trilogy > *Discovering the Mind*: > "Freud had extraordinarily high standards of honesty and I know of no > man or woman more honest than Freud." > > In his celebrated *Four Essays on Liberty* the philosopher Isaiah > Berlin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaiah_Berlin referred to Freud's > "work of genius as the greatest healer and psychological theorist of > our time". > > And more recently, philosopher John Wisdom > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wisdom wrote in *Freud, Women and > Society*: "Masson made the incredible accusation that Freud was a liar. > A more honest man than Freud scarcely walked the earth…" > > Equivalent assessments of Freud by eminent intellectuals and scholars > during the first three-quarters of the twentieth century could be > replicated many times. That such assessments were profoundly in error > is now a commonplace of modern Freud scholarship and raises the > question of how highly intelligent intellectuals could be so mistaken > in their reading of Freud. > > I have attempted a tentative (and grossly inadequate :-) )examination > of "Freud's Techniques of Persuasion" in Chapter 12 of *Seductive > Mirage*, but eminent intellectuals/philosophers should surely be able > to see through rhetorical strategies of the kind he frequently > employed. So what was going on? I'm genuinely puzzled by this > phenomenon (also in relation to other instances that I'm sure some > TIPSters could suggest). > > Allen Esterson > Former lecturer, Science Department > Southwark College, London > allenester...@compuserve.com > http://www.esterson.org > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: jwarm...@oakton.edu. > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752d0d&n=T&l=tips&o=5597 > or send a blank email to > leave-5597-49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > > --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: tay...@sandiego.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a21b0&n=T&l=tips&o=5632 or send a blank email to leave-5632-13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a2...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=5635 or send a blank email to leave-5635-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
