Dear Tipsters, Cowles and Davis (1982) wrote an excellent paper on the origins of the .05 convention. It is interesting to see the position that some of the great statisticians took on where the issue of where to set a guideline for siginificant. For example, referring to chi square, Pearson wrote that the fit is "remarkably good" if p = .56, and "not very improbable" if p .1.
American Psychologist, 37, 553-558. Sincerely, Stuart ___________________________________________________________________________ "Floreat Labore" [cid:image007.jpg@01CE3F73.D292AD60] "Recti cultus pectora roborant" Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D., Phone: 819 822 9600 x 2402 Department of Psychology, Fax: 819 822 9661 Bishop's University, 2600 rue College, Sherbrooke, Québec J1M 1Z7, Canada. E-mail: stuart.mckel...@ubishops.ca<mailto:stuart.mckel...@ubishops.ca> (or smcke...@ubishops.ca<mailto:smcke...@ubishops.ca>) Bishop's University Psychology Department Web Page: http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy<blocked::http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy> Floreat Labore" [cid:image008.jpg@01CE3F73.D292AD60] [cid:image009.jpg@01CE3F73.D292AD60] ___________________________________________________________________________ From: William Scott [mailto:wsc...@wooster.edu] Sent: April 22, 2013 4:01 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Polling... To me, the phrase "approaching significance" implies that all we need to do is run a few more subjects until we see significance, a practice known to bolster your chances for a type I error. Bill Scott >>> Claudia Stanny 04/22/13 1:28 PM >>> "Highly significant" conflates statistical rarity with impact (importance of the effect, the size of the effect). On the other hand, I think "approaching significance" can be useful and I will defend that practice (although I wouldn't push its use in a publication). Many statisticians note the arbitrariness of the decision criterion (the magical .05) and argue that a result that would occur randomly with a probability of .051 or .052 or .06 (I could go on . . . it is a slippery slope) deserves closer examination than just deciding that the result is does not meet the criterion to be declared statistically reliable. This rigidness in the decision process seems to reinforce the too-common treatment of statistical analysis as a ritual of taking out data (our sacrificial goat, as it were) to the oracle for a decision. We can be more thoughtful than this. (Abelson's excellent book, Statistics as Principled Argument, has some discussion of the thoughtful use of inferential statistics.) Failure to reach the criterion can occur for reasons other than absence of an effect. The near misses are worth examining. Similarly, the just-made-it "successes" deserve replication and questions about Type I Errors. Claudia _____________________________________________ Claudia J. Stanny, Ph.D. Director Center for University Teaching, Learning, and Assessment Associate Professor NSF UWF Faculty ADVANCE Scholar School of Psychological and Behavioral Sciences University of West Florida 11000 University Parkway Pensacola, FL 32514 - 5751 Phone: (850) 857-6355 (direct) or 473-7435 (CUTLA) csta...@uwf.edu<mailto:csta...@uwf.edu> CUTLA Web Site: http://uwf.edu/cutla/ Personal Web Pages: http://uwf.edu/cstanny/website/index.htm --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: wsc...@wooster.edu<mailto:wsc...@wooster.edu>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13058.902daf6855267276c83a639cbb25165c&n=T&l=tips&o=25141 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-25141-13058.902daf6855267276c83a639cbb251...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-25141-13058.902daf6855267276c83a639cbb251...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: smcke...@ubishops.ca<mailto:smcke...@ubishops.ca>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13510.2cc18398df2e6692fffc29a610cb72e3&n=T&l=tips&o=25149 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-25149-13510.2cc18398df2e6692fffc29a610cb7...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-25149-13510.2cc18398df2e6692fffc29a610cb7...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=25150 or send a blank email to leave-25150-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
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