Nancy,

Given your institution's policies, you had no choice but to drop her if she
did not show up. I expect she had the same experience in multiple classes
if she was out of town for a funeral, which probably adds to her stress but
should send her a clear message that this is what happens at this
institution.

Now if yours was the only class she missed and was dropped from, that
raises a new set of questions, doesn't it? If she were out of town,
wouldn't she have missed multiple classes?  Just asking. . . .


I think you were most kind and generous to offer to reinstate her. But I
know how rigid the rules about attendance can be at two-year institutions.
I learned recently that in Florida, students who miss more than a certain
number of classes must be withdrawn by the instructor, even if the student
is doing well in the class. Something about the regulations related to
financial aid awards at 2-year schools.  (The four-year schools don't have
this policy, so it came as quite a surprise to me when this matter came up
in a faculty development activity that involved multiple people from 2-year
schools.)

Perhaps if you had reinforced the message that this was not entirely your
decision by telling her you would *attempt* to get her reinstated, assuming
you could persuade the registrar or whoever to accept her documentation,
you might have gotten a less hostile response. (And it would have saved you
some additional grief if your attempts to reinstate her hit a bureaucratic
wall.) But I wouldn't guarantee that!  :-)


Claudia

BTW

Anyone else on TIPS not getting all of the messages?
I received Tim's response but never saw Nancy's question. I even looked in
my spam filter. And no, I do not have a special filter set for Nancy!  :-)






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On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Tim Shearon <tshea...@collegeofidaho.edu>
wrote:

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>  Nancy
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> Short version- you are doing the right thing and it’s her environmental
> factors and lack of self-reflection that lead to her response. (I.e., it’s
> her – not you)
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> Long version:  I’ve had exactly the same thing happen – even getting abuse
> from a parent for being “heartless in their time of need”. My syllabus
> stated that if you must miss you MUST notify me at the earliest possible
> time (she waited a week and a half). And it clearly stated that if you have
> to miss an exam due to an emergency you will not be allowed to make it up
> if you wait past the day of the exam to notify me- for any reason. Because
> I believed her but was trying to remain fair to the other students, I
> emailed her that she could give me a name and town and I’d be happy to just
> look it up in lieu of actually asking her to print the obituary out. She
> replied that I was being cruel. I did not take the bait but explained that
> I was being fair to the others and going beyond the syllabus to accommodate
> her. That’s when her dad emailed and voice mailed me to tell me what a cad
> I was and “how would you feel”? Still didn’t defend myself but called him
> to explain the situation. He finally said, “I guess we all get a bit testy
> at these times.” Grief. Assuming she’s being honest and not deflecting at
> being pushed to defend an untruth, I think you are being fair and she’s
> grieving but not reflecting on her behavior enough to recognize that her
> emotions come largely from that and not from you. You are, I think, being
> fair with her.
>
> Tim
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> _______________________________
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> Timothy O. Shearon, PhD
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> Professor, Department of Psychology
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> The College of Idaho
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> Caldwell, ID 83605
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> email: tshea...@collegeofidaho.edu
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> teaching: intro to neuropsychology; psychopharmacology; general; history
> and systems
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> *From:* drnanjo [mailto:drna...@aol.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 01, 2014 8:43 PM
> *To:* Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> *Subject:* Re: [tips] The season of the deceased grandparent
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> Hello everyone -
>
> Hope you had a nice summer and holiday weekend.
>
> So, I need to know if my two choices in a matter are the dichotomy of
> total patsy and heartless b-word.
>
> As I've often joked to students, May and December are bad times for
> grandparents (and other distant relatives) who seem to expire in droves
> right in time to make it impossible to sit for a final or complete a term
> project.
>
> A close second is the first class of the term...at community colleges, you
> must show up on the first day to keep your seat, otherwise according to
> regs we can (and must) give your seat away...to one of what is usually many
> students on a long wait list.
>
> SO...I had a student not show this week and when she finally contacted me
> I'd already dropped her. She said her grandmother had died. I said, I
> dropped you but if you can verify the story I'll reinstate you. And I got a
> fairly abusive email back.
>
> I suppose my main mistake was not simply saying "you are dropped" BUT I
> thought (perhaps wrongly) that I was giving her a chance if she was
> truthful. Now in retrospect it just seems like I should have said "too
> bad.' I suppose it might have also seemed just as heartless as "Too bad." I
> don't know. I hate being played. And I hate being mean. Avoid-avoid
> conflict.
>
> I also suppose I am experiencing a certain amount of burnout due to many
> environmental factors...not just students but other aspects of the current
> state of my work environment. So this is probably a tendril extended for
> support as well as to find out a little more about how you all react to and
> handle the dead fill-in-the-distant relative of your choice, all-purpose
> vague but serious-sounding "family emergency" and the rest of the excuse
> tropes.
>
> Welcome back.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Nancy Melucci
> Long Beach CIty College
> Long Beach CA
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