On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 9:24 AM Russ Housley <hous...@vigilsec.com> wrote:

> Eric:
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:07 PM Martin Thomson <m...@lowentropy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that this is a useful erratum and it should be approved/HFDU.
>>> The extension to which this text alludes is RFC 8773, not
>>> post_handshake_auth.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, although 8773 actually is not super-clear about post-handshake, so
>> that's actually something we should clarify there.
>>
>>
>> RFC 8773 is not intended for post handshake.  So, I never thought about
>> that.  What is the use case you are considering?
>>
>
> I don't have one. I'm just trying to make sure things are clear. perhaps
> an erratum on 8773 to make ultra clear?
>
>
> I do not find it unclear.
>

I am looking at 5.2 which seems like it could be more precise.



> What do you have in mind?
>

Changing:
   TLS 1.3 does not permit the server to send a CertificateRequest
   message when a PSK is being used. This restriction is removed when
   the "tls_cert_with_extern_psk" extension is negotiated, allowing
   certificate-based authentication for both the client and the
   server. To: TLS 1.3 does not permit the server to send a
   CertificateRequest message when a PSK is being used. This restriction
   is removed when the "tls_cert_with_extern_psk" extension is
   negotiated, allowing certificate-based authentication for both the
   client and the server.

To:
   TLS 1.3 does not permit the server to send a CertificateRequest
   message when a PSK is being used. This restriction is removed when
   the "tls_cert_with_extern_psk" extension is negotiated, allowing
   certificate-based authentication for both the client and the
   server. To: TLS 1.3 does not permit the server to send a
   CertificateRequest message when a PSK is being used. This
   restriction is removed for the main handshake when the
   "tls_cert_with_extern_psk" extension is negotiated, allowing
   certificate-based authentication for both the client and the
   server. This extension has no impact on external PSK usage
   with post-handshake authentication, which is prohibited by
   TLS 1.3.

-Ekr

Russ
>
>
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