On 06.04.26 23:24, Nico Williams wrote:

On Mon, Apr 06, 2026 at 09:38:55PM +0200, Muhammad Usama Sardar wrote:
It deeply surprises me that IEEE is starting off its PQC transition with
non-hybrids rather than hybrids. If they have done no analysis, we should
tell them the risks and that hybrids are currently preferable. That's why I
keep emphasizing that we should first recommend hybrids and that risks
should be thoroughly mentioned in pure ML-KEM draft, if we are to publish
it.
Their trade-offs might be different to ours.  Perhas they think that
security in-depth means you'll use TLS at the application layer, with
hybrids, and so if you use PQ-only at the network layer, in the worst
case scenario you're still protected by the use of hybrids at the
application layer.

Well, this double TLS is really shooting on the foot the only somewhat reasonable argument I've seen for non-hybrid so far: efficiency!

Best,

-Usama

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