Filippo, thank you for confirming that you were warned for your conduct towards Bernstein. This is actually very helpful.
As for your Lobsters comment: I didn't cite it as a moderation request. I cited it because someone who publicly calls a colleague "a declining scientist that has not made anything relevant for more than 10 years" and then writes to this list asking for stronger moderation of that same colleague should expect to have that contradiction noted. You say you'd welcome off-forum conduct being policed — I'd be careful what you wish for there, because between the two of you, only one has called the other a washed-up irrelevant figure in a public forum. I note that neither you nor the chairs have addressed the other examples I raised: Paul Wouters publicly calling me "malicious," his continued private emails to me after I asked him to stop, or Uri Blumenthal's mockery — all of which received no visible response from the chairs despite my public appeals. The question remains: what principle distinguishes who gets a warning from who gets formally moderated? Nadim Kobeissi Symbolic Software • https://symbolic.software > On 10 Apr 2026, at 12:13 PM, Filippo Valsorda <[email protected]> wrote: > > 2026-04-10 11:07 GMT+02:00 Nadim Kobeissi <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>: >> When I publicly complained that the former AD, Paul Wouters, would not cease >> privately emailing me despite my repeated explicit requests that he stop, >> conduct which could reasonably be qualified as harassment, [...] >> >> [...] Here’s what Filippo himself had previously written about Bernstein: >> >> “He's just a declining scientist that has not made anything relevant for >> more than 10 years, and wants to slow down the deployment of designs that >> are bound to replace his own. It would be sad if it weren't so corrosive.” > > That is a poorly excerpted passage of a Lobsters comment from 5 months ago > <https://lobste.rs/s/ngjqsm/nsa_ietf_can_attacker_simply_purchase#c_m1kdmv>, > which I still believe was fair and appropriate to the forum's moderation and > discourse standards. > > You seem to be suggesting IETF moderation based on off-forum statements, > which I might even agree with in principle, since I am sure this whole thread > would not be happening if that was enforced. (Emphasis in quote mine.) > Unfortunately, that doesn't work well in practice, not last because > moderators don't have time to collect little dossiers of Lobsters links. > >> [...] Was Filippo warned for his conduct towards Bernstein? > > About the laughing email, yes. I knew I would be. > >>> On 10 Apr 2026, at 4:15 AM, Filippo Valsorda <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> As loath as I am to touch this thread, I would like to thank the chairs and >>> express my support for their thankless moderation work, lest my silence be >>> interpreted otherwise. >>> >>> Indeed, a diversity of point of views is important, and I heard of many >>> people who avoid or left this WG or the IETF because of the antics of a few >>> prolific posters, and in particular due to the often directed and personal >>> attacks of Bernstein. Many of them from corners of the Internet or with >>> voices and backgrounds that were already shamefully underrepresented. >>> >>> I have on the other hand no worries that the point of view of confident, >>> contrarian, and prolix men like Bernstein or myself will continue to be >>> fairly represented. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TLS mailing list -- [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
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