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Jason R. Mastaler wrote:
> Stephen Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> I'm certainly fine with such complete information being sent there
>> *but* I *also* want some kind of well-formatted error to be returned
>> to the SMTP client *as well* (and some of the text returned to the
>> client could be derived from the exception text, although obviously
>> the client wouldn't receive the entire stack trace).
> 
> I don't disagree.  Let's just figure out how to do it in a manner
> that's not going to cause confusing or non-standard behavior for users
> as was the case last time we tried to address this.

On this specific point - what should the behavior be? I'm honestly
confused *why* the person who reported the problem with the exception
handler that I added thought the behavior was incorrect - there *was* a
problem, and it was reported as an SMTP error message.

1) Current behavior: Connection gets dropped, not error message
information transferred to SMTP client.

2) Behavior I added: Exception is trapped. Information regarding what
went wrong is transferred to SMTP client in the error message.

I would expect any well written SMTP client to display an error message
dialog to the end-user in *both* cases. Most clients seem to hide the
specific error details, so I'd guess the error message the user sees
would often be the same in both cases (perhaps with a details button so
the raw SMTP error message could be displayed in the 2nd case).

Now, the problem reporter said (2) above made the end-user think there
was a problem with the mail system. Well, If I Recall Correctly, there
*was* a problem - the SMTP server behind tmda-ofmipd rejected the
message. In that scenario, shouldn't tmda-ofmipd (and also the MUA)
report this as a problem to the user?

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