Hi Neil - great to hear from you.  It's been a long time.  I see you haven't 
lost that sense of humor!!  Check back when you are able.

hugs,
Linda
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Neil McNeil<mailto:n_...@hotmail.com> 
  To: we4king...@verizon.net<mailto:we4king...@verizon.net> ; 
tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com> 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:41 AM
  Subject: RE: [TMIC] Suicide Inducing Drugs?


  I never seem to find time to write to the list these days but had to offer my 
thoughts on the issue of neurontin. I have had tm for close to ten fun filled 
years now and the best pain relief I have found has come from neurontin or 
lyrica. I took neuronitin for a few years before switching to Lyrica. They work 
very well for me and I haven't killed myself.....not even once.
   
  Neil 
  (in NS)
   

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  CC: we4king...@verizon.net
  From: we4king...@verizon.net
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Suicide Inducing Drugs?
  Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:56:14 -0400
  To: tmic-list@eskimo.com

  I found the articles refered to by NPR: 
  
http://www.reutershealth.com/archive/2010/04/13/eline/links/20100413elin006.html<http://www.reutershealth.com/archive/2010/04/13/eline/links/20100413elin006.html>
  
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2010/04/anticonvulsants-suicide-risk-gabapentin.html<http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2010/04/anticonvulsants-suicide-risk-gabapentin.html>
  I have never been on Gababentin/Neurontin but the relief I get from Lyrica 
was worth the month of side effects I went through to get to relief (the makers 
acknowledge lyrica's temporary suicide risk and has information for patients 
and doctors). 


   Anti depressants also carry a risk of increased suicide until the user 
adjusts.  the suicide risk is also temporary and passes when the taker adjusts. 
 It is good to know that this is a possibility so that doctors, patients and 
their family's can monitor the patient for such a side effect but if you do the 
math the risk is very small and keeping an eye on it can lower the risk even 
more.  


  more worrisome to me is the crackdown of off label uses of medications like 
these 2 drugs that so many of us "off label users" find so helpful.


  Mindy  the artisan


  On Apr 13, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Akua wrote:


    neurontin and gabapentin (sp)  just on NPR---- didn't hear it all but 
something about suicide... for those on it, you might want to check it out.


    I remember refusing Neurontin for my pain while in the nursing home, 
because of side effects and being chastised and derided for my decision 
repeatedly. I am so grateful I resisted the pressure.
    With depression as an attendant  to TM,  suicide inducing chemicals are a 
burden we don't need.




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