Something you've forgotten: you might be able to pay $1000 and get JRUN, but could you ever, ever in your wildest dreams or demands, talk directly with the person who not only wrote the exact code you're using, but is responsible for setting the standard that the code is based on if you did? Nope.
But here, on this list, you can get support from the people who not only write Tomcat itself, but are also involved in setting the standard itself. Applications like Websphere, etc. are based on a reference implementation (ie, Tomcat). Tomcat isn't something someone is building in their garage, and neither are the other Jakarta projects. So, you could spend $60K (and more) for Websphere from IBM, and get a nice set of documentation with it, or you could pay nothing and get not only the software, but the attention of the guy who wrote the software and who designed the architecture that a product like Websphere is not only based on, but MUST support. You can't pay for that level of support from any commercial software company...they don't even provide it, and if they did, it would cost you tens of thousands of dollars. Seems obvious to me which option is the best option, but I guess it's possible that I live in some sort of alternate universe and that the tomcat-user list is the only portal between my alternate universe and yours. LOL John > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike DiChiappari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:37 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: I don�t understand the objective of this open list ! > > > Notice that I didn't ask a question JOEL BERGMAN (are you a Jakarta > developer). I simply chimed in when someone else expressed > dissatisfaction with this list. I have been disappointed and > frustrated by the **** that is called documentation. I stopped > trying to get tomcat to work properly over a year ago. Recently I > looked into it again, and noticed little to no improvement. > > Note that my background is technical, with over twenty years of > building commercial quality software. I don't believe in a lot of > pie-in-the-sky ideals in terms of software development. I rate > software on three important criteria: does it do what it is intended, > can it be used easily, and is it maintainable. > > In terms of tomcat, I give it a grade of incomplete on all three of > the above. I can not tell if it does what its supposed to because I > can't get it to work with a reasonable amount of effort. > > Here if my contribution to Jarkata and people looking for a low cost > Java solution. Use JRUN (discalimer: I am not affiliated with > Macromedia in any way). It is under $1000 and includes a full J2EE > implementation (JSP, servlets, EJB). It looks like the installer > does all the stuff that mod_jk, mod_jk2, and mod_web are supposed to > (if anyone could get them to work). A development version is > available for free. > > Mike > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Mike DiChiappari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:37 PM > >> To: Tomcat Users List > >> Subject: Re: I don�t understand the objective of this open list ! > >> > >> > >> I know the reason for this list - at least as it applies > to Jakarta. > >> It is meant to address the complete lack of adequate documentation > >> for tomcat. > > > >Are you volunteering to write some, Mike DiChiappari? That > is how things > >get done: someone DOES them. > > > >If you don't know enough, you could skim the mailing list looking for > >questions, finding out when they were answered to the questioner's > >satisfaction, and using that as your source material. > > > >Or do you just want answers to YOUR questions? > > > > --- Noel > > > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
