You're forgetting that Tomcat is a reference implementation. Nobody is positioning it as a be-all, end-all commercial solution.
If you use JRUN, you are tied to Macromedia forever. You automatically lose portability, you automatically lose customer base because there are many tech-savvy customers out there who are very aware that the same functionality can be had for free, you automatically lose the ability to adapt the product to your needs, and you automatically put the responsibility for the security of your company's (and your customers') intellectual property and proprietary information into the hands of a third-party company that a) has no fiduciary responsibility to you, your customers, or your company (read Macromedia's EULA), and b) is driven solely by profit. Talk about a house of cards. So, if you'd like to abdicate all of that responsibility in return for a nicely bound paperback book with icons and a table of contents, and a nice installer that does things to your system in a fashion that prevents you from ever finding out exactly what it did and why, then by all means purchase JRUN or any other product. Don't make the bogus jump from that decision process to a decision process that leads you to believe that JRUN is better just because it has documentation. Your 20 years of technical experience sure hasn't helped you with your reasoning, logic, and deduction skills. Perhaps a Critical Thinking class at the local community college would be beneficial. BTW, if you'd like to pay me $1000 (same price as JRUN), I'll write the best documentation you've ever seen, and even put it into a nice little book for you. But then, that would be proving how ridiculous your posts, reasoning, and assumptions are, and I have a feeling you're not that dumb. John > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike DiChiappari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:37 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: I don�t understand the objective of this open list ! > > > Notice that I didn't ask a question JOEL BERGMAN (are you a Jakarta > developer). I simply chimed in when someone else expressed > dissatisfaction with this list. I have been disappointed and > frustrated by the **** that is called documentation. I stopped > trying to get tomcat to work properly over a year ago. Recently I > looked into it again, and noticed little to no improvement. > > Note that my background is technical, with over twenty years of > building commercial quality software. I don't believe in a lot of > pie-in-the-sky ideals in terms of software development. I rate > software on three important criteria: does it do what it is intended, > can it be used easily, and is it maintainable. > > In terms of tomcat, I give it a grade of incomplete on all three of > the above. I can not tell if it does what its supposed to because I > can't get it to work with a reasonable amount of effort. > > Here if my contribution to Jarkata and people looking for a low cost > Java solution. Use JRUN (discalimer: I am not affiliated with > Macromedia in any way). It is under $1000 and includes a full J2EE > implementation (JSP, servlets, EJB). It looks like the installer > does all the stuff that mod_jk, mod_jk2, and mod_web are supposed to > (if anyone could get them to work). A development version is > available for free. > > Mike > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Mike DiChiappari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:37 PM > >> To: Tomcat Users List > >> Subject: Re: I don�t understand the objective of this open list ! > >> > >> > >> I know the reason for this list - at least as it applies > to Jakarta. > >> It is meant to address the complete lack of adequate documentation > >> for tomcat. > > > >Are you volunteering to write some, Mike DiChiappari? That > is how things > >get done: someone DOES them. > > > >If you don't know enough, you could skim the mailing list looking for > >questions, finding out when they were answered to the questioner's > >satisfaction, and using that as your source material. > > > >Or do you just want answers to YOUR questions? > > > > --- Noel > > > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
