Hello, At Wednesday 26 September 2012 12:07:17 DaB. wrote: > > Even if > > I would begin this very instance I doubt I would be finish in December > > 2013; and it would need the same 18 servers (or better: more). > > The database servers (replicated and user-databases) are going to be > provided by the Labs infrastructure. That's the majority of > Toolserver's servers. We have shared storage provided already.
Let me count: -2 userland-server (linux) -1 userland-server (solaris) -2 web-servers (solaris) -1 web-serever (linux) (for testing) -2 HA-nodes -2 aux-servers -1 server for the roots -1 user-db-server -5 replicated db-servers 6 vs 11 – clearly the majority ;-) > > The capacity of Labs is far greater than Toolserver's. We have a > cluster in the pmtpa and eqiad datacenters. Each cluster has 7 compute > nodes for virtual machines, 2 database servers for replicas, 1 > database server for user databases and 4 storage nodes for shared > storage access. So you have 2 database servers for 7 wmf-clusters? You are poorer than we are. > > It's definitely possible to re-create Toolserver inside of Labs. I'm > not suggesting that's what should be done for a migration, but it's an > option. So who is helping me to install solaris? Who is helping me to port our self- written software over? Who is helping me to change the self-written scripts? Who is helping me to convert our jira-bugs into your bugzilla? Who will update all the wiki-pages? The toolserver is not just a simple Debian with a puppet-system running; its much more complex. And while I'm sure that I could re-build something similar in labs in a great time-window, it would just be something similar, not the same; many tools would break (if you have time, take a look in our JIRA for things that are not working on Debian, but on work on Solaris). Sometimes I have the feeling WMF and WMDE thinks that we can shutdown the TS on a Friday, rsync the stuff at the weekend, power-up labs at Monday and everything will work…. > > - Ryan Sincerely, DaB. -- Userpage: [[:w:de:User:DaB.]] — PGP: 2B255885
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