În 2014-01-03 18:26, aaz...@mail.ru a scris:
their campaigning seems effective to me.
I don't want shatter your sweet dreams, but can you tell me percentage
of computer users who use Trisquel?
I haven't made any statement regarding the users of GNU GPL-licensed
software, GNU software or Trisquel distribution. The fact that there are
so many developers who do one of the three things I mentioned: license
their software under GPL, donate software to GNU and develop free
distributions like Trisquel seems to me FSF's campaigning work is
effective.
Put one in a leash and then unleash him.
You will see the difference in his attitude.
You dodged the answer. Maybe I need to repeat my question. If every
animal want to be free, then how is it possible to domesticate them?
By tricking them, giving them immediate benefits and then enslaving
them. That's the way of proprietary software developers too. They trick
the users to give their freedom for convenience.
Don't confuse these with slavery.
Slavery is a subset of hierarchy. I can prove it.
So what. Proprietary software is a subset of software. It would be wrong
to reject software because most of software is proprietary. There is
free software as well. So if slavery is a subset of hierarchy, that
doesn't make hierarchy a bad thing. There are democracies (which are
hierarchies) and those forbid slavery.
Anyway, "confusion" means you say hierarchy = slavery, not hierarchy >
slavery.
Let's pretend that
slavery isn't a subset of hierarchy. Anarchistic society haven't got
any hierarchy. Thus, citizens of anarchistic country can have slaves.
But, it's absurd. Thus, because we have only two mutually exclusive
options "Slavery is a subset of hierarchy" and "Slavery isn't a
subset of hierarchy", then the option "Slavery is a subset of
hierarchy" is true.
Your logic is faulty because you fail to see that anarchy is the system
in which there is no single big hierarchical tree with a central root
(leadership), but that doesn't mean there are not a lot of smaller
hierarchical trees instead. So instead of having a hierarchical
community or society, you have an anarchical community or society of
smaller independent subgroups, of which some, if not all, are
hierarchical. In some of those subgroups you will find slaves. Actually,
anarchy drives disorder, violation of individual freedoms and slavery.
Thus slavery can happen in hierarchy but in anarchy it will certainly
happen.
However, this forum of a free system is not the place for a
hierarchy/anarchy debate.
You can find benefits in each of the three described situations
Maybe I wasn't clear. Surely, it's possible to find out positive sides
in every situation. But every situation is sum of minuses and pluses.
Thus, if I said "I can't see benefits", then you must translate it as
"the sum is a negative number or zero".
At some point you can think some rather trivial benefits can weight a
lot, more than your freedom. That doesn't mean your are rationale and
you're make a good long-term decision when you value benefits over
freedom. Sometimes you don't even think of the minuses. You are reckless
and just go with it without giving it a time to think and analyse.
It's because they are reckless and act before they think
Then why Bill Gates don't use Trisquel? I don't think he is a reckless
idiot.
He is a perverse person who wants freedom just for himself and not for
all users. I am pretty sure that if he uses Windows, it's not the
version a regular user can get. And I am sure he can modify the system
he uses, because Microsoft grants him with the source code. And I am
sure he doesn't have any Microsoft backdoor in his
system.
But this is not the only person who strives for the power to control
others and have freedom just for himself.
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