>That's a burden to businesses, not a benefit.
Many people are not going to buy if there is no purchase protection. Seller
having to pay a
fee to provide purchase protection is fine for seller if it increases his
sales significantly.
>Cash doesn't give you "purchase protection".
If I buy in a shop, I get to investigate the item I want to buy before I pay.
>exactly what GNU Taler is supposed to be
I am not sure, you are right.
I think gnutaler would want you to use their payment system to buy items from
shops on the internet. If not
that would limit the distribution of the use of gnutaler. Again why I think
gnutaler should have
a purchase protection service.
>If you trust a business little enough to not be willing to give cash to
them, then don't give cash to them.
Which I do not. I do not buy, if I do not get purchase protection. I think a
lot of people behaves like me.
What I say is, it would be a mistake to introduce gnutaler, not having a
gnutaler purchase protection
service ready, because the lack of a gnutaler purchase protection service
will limit the number of
gnutaler users significantly.
>take your money and run would be an illegal
This assertion is the result of your chain of arguments. You say, gnutaler
should be nothing more than
a service similar to cash. Only use gnutaler, if you would use cash. That is
where I disagree what
gnutaler should be. I think gnutaler should be a payment service, you would
select to buy items from shops
on the internet. Which requires a purchase protection service.
>not what GNU Taler is designed for.
If that is correct, I think gnutaler has made a mistake. For the
beforementioned reason.
>from internet shops
When I wrote about items bought from a shop on the internet, it was implied,
the items would have
to be shipped to the buyer.
>course that would change it.
I do not know exactly what pieces of information Stallman resents to give a
shop on the internet, if
he buys an item. I know it is the surveillance part, he resents. I assume, he
will not inform
seller about financial data and address, because he does not want seller to
be able to have a
record on him on these data. I also think, Stallman does not want seller to
have a record on
what he has bought. About items which have to be shipped, Stallman will have
to inform about his
name and address. And of cource seller will know what he has bought. That is
why I think Stallman
will not use gnutaler to buy items from shops on the internet.
>he can ask for the package to be delivered to a friend's mailbox
If you use another persons name and address, you stop sellers survaillance
and profiling of
you. But the person, who is the proxy, gets subject to the surveillance and
profiling. That may
have unwanted consequences for the proxy person. You should not ask another
person to be a
proxy regarding any major part of your shopping on the internet.
>e-books and music files
Regarding all kinds of data and media files, gnutaler would be very good.
Will seller be allowed
to sell media files paid by gnutaler? Maybe not. I think surveillance of the
buyer is an
important part of the concept of selling media. The owner of the media may
want to be able to
identify who is using the media they sell. In that case, gnutaler payment is
not going to be
accepted by those having the rights to a given piece of media.
