************* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org ************ Hi David Thanks for the acknowledgement. I can see 3D visual images but only if I do some form of meditatation, cool the thinking mind but what those images are I have not a clue. In my normal state if I bring up an incident or scene from the past I can see it but I can't see it, mad hey? I just know where everything is, I don't see the details of it all and as I said I just view whatever arises and that's enough, then it's gone, no need to trawl through it. That image contains all I need to know, obviously I cannot do that with heavy pain or unconsciousness but seems to work for me at the level of confront I am at. Maybe there are screens, blackness or mass between me and the picture but certainly I have noticed many times when I have read about how people see mental image pictures I always have this anomaly come up to do with the way I view past images. Anyway, never mind, I expect it will all come out in the wash, I will keep on with the Level 2 and see if I make a breakthrough, as I reported earlier things do seem to becoming a little more solid in these past things I bring up.
More in line with Trom I am reading a book at the moment about what they call Holographic time by someone called Christopher Westra, I bought the ebook ages ago but have not got around to reading it yet. It's about how it is possible to view the world in a holographic way instead of a linear way. Very interesting. How you getting on with Trom, are you still having any trouble I think you mentioned something about that. Best Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Pelly" <dpe...@execulink.com> To: "The Resolution of Mind list" <trom@lists.newciv.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:13 PM Subject: [TROM1] 3 Items. > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > ************ > > > Hi Mike, > > I made a mistake on the other letter. I clicked send instead of delete > when I wanted to cut some of your letter. > > Any way I acknowledge your mail. > > It is interesting on how you don't see pictures. > > I think Ant is the same. > > David > > > On 13-Jan-10, at 6:59 AM, Mickel wrote: > >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >> ************ >> Hi David >> Yes a very good procedure, I think it has something to do with >> completing a >> goal, Start, Change, Stop, which then boosts morale and brings the >> person >> into PT, negative mind stuff drops away and the person feels much >> better and >> can start to originate their own goals. >> >> I have of course noticed this many times in my life before as I am >> sure most >> people have, that when you complete some task they feel better >> afterwards, >> but I have never thought much about it. >> As I said it was only a couple of months ago when I had some reactive >> mind >> junk move in on me that it came to my attention. >> >> I was actually doing the contacting MEST objects process when I >> noticed the >> large mirror in my room needed cleaning and it only took a few minutes >> paying attention to detail and all the mind crap just dropped away, so >> I >> thought at that time it might be a useful process to include if I >> encountered any nasty reactive stuff while using Trom. >> >> I am off to do a bit of research into visualisation at the moment, I >> have a >> bit of confusion here somewhere. >> I believe L Ron Hubbard did some research into this area in the early >> 1950s >> and I have some books about this which I have not read for a couple >> years >> and I have come across this subject on the internet by a few people, >> here is >> what I am talking about. >> >> Keeping this as simple as I can, there are 3 Universes, The Physical, >> the >> mental or mind universe (Mental image pictures) and the Spiritual >> Universe. >> >> The physical and mental universe contain mass and time, the spiritual >> universe is different, it does not contain time. >> >> The spiritual Being makes an intention and the creation exists >> instantly, it >> is not a mind thing, so my bit of confusion is something I came across >> many >> times when I was studying Scientology. >> >> Each time I read that when I look at some item from the past that is a >> mental image picture stored in the mind, that is where I had the >> confusion >> and I have never forgotten it because each time I read that I had a >> disagreement. >> >> That! is not how I see past incidents, I cannot explain how I know or >> see >> incidents from the past, I never have been able to explain it, I just >> know I >> am not looking at a picture stored in the mind. >> >> Also, I am not able to have processes like Dianetic procedures run on >> me >> because I just see and know instantly, the idea of running over and >> over an >> incident finding more and more detail is not how my mind works, I see >> the >> whole and then it's gone and then I am keyed out, there is no timetrack >> then, there is just present time or Now and things, goals to be >> achieved. >> >> So, I have written this up best as I can and I shall go and find that >> data >> concerning the difference between a mind mock up and a spiritual mock >> up. >> Best >> Mike >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Pelly" <dpe...@execulink.com> >> To: "The Resolution of Mind list" <trom@lists.newciv.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:26 AM >> Subject: [TROM1] 3 Items. >> >> >>> ************* >>> The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >>> ************ >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>>> >>>> A couple of months ago I discovered a method that gives me a key out >>>> in a >>>> very short time, a matter of minutes and that is to find a little job >>>> to do. >>>> >>>> Something like cleaning a mirror, doing the washing up, sweeping a >>>> floor but >>>> instead of doing these jobs rapidly as I would normally do I pay full >>>> attention to what I am doing, take a bit of care with attention to >>>> detail, I >>>> don't have to go over the top, you know, not become obsessive about >>>> it, just >>>> take care. >>> >>> >>> I think that is excellent. I call that practical TROM. >>> >>> I do the same in scientology. Instead of using book and bottle on >>> a >>> handi capped ( severe abuse case ) guy that lives in the same house as >>> I do, I get him to do things. clean house, make a pie, fix the car, >>> plant a garden, what ever is possible at the moment. >>> >>> David >>>> >>>> I know the idea of RI is to replace negative stuff a person has >>>> discharged >>>> with more positive items a person mocks so I am wondering if this >>>> process I >>>> am using will also do the trick, having completed a little job like I >>>> have >>>> described, any anxiety, mass, whatever has completely gone and I feel >>>> whole, >>>> that is the best way I can describe it. >>>> Anyway, if you feel inclined let me know what you think about my use >>>> of that >>>> process. >>>> >>>> Anyway, the result of all this is to make sure Level 2 is complete >>>> before >>>> going on to 3. >>>> Best >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Trom mailing list >>>> Trom@lists.newciv.org >>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> David >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Trom mailing list >>> Trom@lists.newciv.org >>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.136/2616 - Release Date: >> 01/12/10 >> 07:35:00 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> Trom@lists.newciv.org >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> > > > Best regards, > > David > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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