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"Calling a victim aberrated is an easy way to excuse the perpetrator and 
pretend the injustice doesn't exist. If there was no pain or injustice 
inflicted where does the aberration come from? Why not focus on the abberration 
of the perpetrators, those who seek power by limiting the power of others, 
often by inflicting pain and injustice? Clearly, misogyny exists in their minds 
as well."



Hi Glen
  TROM does not focus on others misbehavior because there is no workable 
technology to get others to behave nicely. 

If i want to be a victim  in a game it doesn't matter how many criminals i 
change into nice people I will find some one to be a victim to.

The solution to all misbehavior in this universe is for me to find and 
timebreak all the games i am compulsively playing and stop playing them. When i 
am free to not play a game i will not end up being a victim of someone elses 
game.

Changing me is something i can do.  It is a fix for the problem which is 
totally under my control. 
Changing others to make them nicer is not something i can do without force and 
that then becomes an overt and puts me back into a compulsive game.

The idea of "doing unto others as you would have them do unto you" is an idea 
that has been around for at least 2500 years yet we still have people 
misbehaving.  it is a failed proposition to try changing others by telling them 
ot be nice or forcing them to be nice with law enforcers.

So Glen,

Keep on TROMing
Pete

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On Jun 21, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Glen Strathy <gstra...@cogeco.ca> wrote:

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> It also exists in that Hubbard quote, and in the unspoken rules - and 
> sometimes written laws - of many societies. It is clearly visible to people 
> outside the culture, but invisible to most participants. Hence, if you're 
> inside it you don't believe it exists.
> 
> I appreciate your point that some people can rise above those rules and 
> exercise more power than what the rules would normally dictate for them, but 
> individual exceptions do not negate what is normal.
> 
> Calling a victim aberrated is an easy way to excuse the perpetrator and 
> pretend the injustice doesn't exist. If there was no pain or injustice 
> inflicted where does the aberration come from? Why not focus on the 
> abberration of the perpetrators, those who seek power by limiting the power 
> of others, often by inflicting pain and injustice? Clearly, misogyny exists 
> in their minds as well.
> 
> On 6/20/2012 11:18 PM, David M. Pelly wrote:
>> Misogyny only exists in the minds of aberrated women.
>> 
>> And no where else.
> 
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