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by ant.phill...@post8.tele.dk (Antony Phillips)
This is an incidental, parenthetical, note. This Trom list now has put
into its header (subject) the word "[TROM1]". To the very best of my
knowledge it is the first Internet list ever run about TROM. At a later
time to or three other lists came up with TROM in their title. I must
admit I was a bit annoyed about that and "combated" it by adding the
numeral "1" to the title. That is a story, and is perhaps a bit of an
anachronism to still have it there (but that is not my hat any longer!).
Note that this is a resend of a message sent some years ago, and some
data (like addresses) is liable to be inaccurate.
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 21:10:53 +0100
From: Antony Phillips <i...@post8.tele.dk>
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Subject: TROM: Replay B62
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To: "TROM LIST" <tro...@newciv.org>
Subject: TROM & Scientology
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:47:50 +0200
NOTE: This message is targeted at those who have a basic understanding of
Scienetology, If you don't and just are interested in TROM, pls ignore, and
continue what you are doing.
So, only the curious and {ex} Scientyologist are left right... :)
When I read Trom, about 2 months ago, it HIT, I cognited it was written from
a higher Q than Scientology as it is currently applied, went up-the-pole.
and I had a new, much simpler model to evaluate life.
>From what I have found so far, it obviousely does not have the same
efffect
on everybody who reads it.
Which is an interesting effect.
As far as I can see, Ron's model does free a being from part of his case if
applied, but at the same time traps the being in a whole lot of his
opinions.
Evaluating these opinions against the TROM model easely blows them.
EXAMPLE: "Production is the basis of morale"
This is typically a "Must Be Know" statement. "Consumption is the basis of
morale" is equally valid of course, and even "No Production" and "No
Consumption" are a basis of morale.
Scientology seems to slanted towards the "Must Be Know" postulate for
the PC,
staff member and source, and the "Must Know" postulate for the Auditor, C/S
etc.
When you look at it that way, all CoS troubles are part of the 3-d "TROM
CASE".
All beings trapped by the CoS could be freed to the next level when we find
out a way to process the 3-d TROM CASE of the CoS.
So, for those that have a purpose of getting all those beings 'untrapped' it
would be nice to find a way to apply TROM to the CoS 3-d (or any 3-d for
that matter).
Anyone on the list care to do some research in this direction? Anyone has
some ideas as to how to aproach this?
Honzo Svasek == random...@null.net
"Axiom 81: Sanity consists of optimum randomity"
- from the Dianetic Axioms by L. Ron Hubbard -
From: Randy Nicholson <b...@best.com>
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To: Nori Avidan <nor...@netvision.net.il>,
"tro...@newciv.org" <tro...@newciv.org>
Subject: Re: SelfClear: Re: FW: Request for Help on Clearing path
Yes Nori,
Its well worth it, I would do it and hope to one day. Maybe using the
TROM manual or the english
dictionary as the materials being studied. It is or was a SCN course
package at one time and I am not
sure if it is still offered. I would not be allowed to do it through the
C of SCN but have enough
information having done the student hat course to get me going.
All the best to you .
Randy Nicholson
Nori Avidan wrote:
> Hi Randy,
>
> Thank you for the quotes.
> Does it worth the effort according to your opinon & experience ?
>
> Nori
>
> ----------
> From: Randy Nicholson[SMTP:b...@best.com]
> Sent: ýSunday, October 18, 1998ý ý5:14 AMý
> To: Nori Avidan
> Cc: 'family-l'ý;ý 'fza-l'ý;ý 'selfclearing-l'ý;ý 'Allen'
> Subject: Re: SelfClear: Re: FW: Request for Help on Clearing path
>
> As defined in the SCN Tech Dictionary :
>
> PRIMARY RUNDOWN, 1. the PRIMARY RUNDOWN consists of word clearing and
study tech. It makes a
> student super-literate. 2. Consists of method one word clearing and
method 8 on study tapes and
> STUDENT HAT.
>
> Method 1, is word clearing with a meter in session done by a trained
auditor.
>
> Method 8, is an action used in the Primary Rundown where one is
studying study tech or where one
> is seeking a full grasp of a subject. Its end product is a
super-literacy. Usually an alphabetical
> list of EVERY word or term in the text of paper, a chapter or a
recorded tape is available or
> provided. The person looks up each word on the alphabetical list and
uses each one in a sentence
> until he has the meaning conceptually.
>
> Method 8 is a MAJOR rundown and the results are nothing short of
fantastic. It does require allot
> of self determinism to get through it from what I understand.
>
> Nori Avidan wrote:
>
> > Hi Randy,
> >
> > Thank you for the information. According to Allen's and yours
answers, It looks like I probably
> > miss appreciated the target of the effort required from me during
the student hat course.
> > I'll will try to fix that.
> >
> > By the way does anybody has more details about the mentioned
Primary RD ?
> >
> > Nori.
> >
> > ----------
> > From: Randy Nicholson[SMTP:b...@best.com]
> > Sent: ýSaturday, October 17, 1998ý ý4:39 AMý
> > To: Allen
> > Cc: Nori Avidaný;ý 'fza-l'ý;ý 'selfclearing-l'ý;ý 'trom-l'
> > Subject: SelfClear: Re: FW: Request for Help on Clearing path
> >
> > Nori,
> >
> > I have not done the Primary RD but I would recommend it to anyone.
I have
> > friends who have completed it and can't say enough about it. It
is a major
> > action and the Student Hat course will get you started. English is
THE language
> > of this planet and I also recommend you work on it as well. You
have some extra
> > work to do with your english barrier. Word clearing got me moving
in life and
> > with my own clearing. It was not just to help me study better but
more of a
> > case gain type of action. Don't discount it on your route to
clearing. If you
> > have the opportunity at some point then do the Primary RD too if
its still
> > available..
> >
> > One thing I can say about the Academy is that there are other
students, course
> > supervisors and word clearers to help you along in the beginning
when its
> > needed most. So if you still have the Academy opportunity open to
you then use
> > it now.
> >
> > This planet could be considered a prison planet but it does not
have to be that
> > way for yourself . I have come and gone many times but I would like
to see
> > others be able to do the same as well.
> >
> > I wish you well.
> > Randy Nicholson
> >
> > Allen wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, Nori,
> > >
> > > This is in addition to my one earlier direct response. I'm making it
> > > public because I believe you've touched upon something of imort to
> > > everyone. I am not on all the lists in this email's recipient
list, but
> > > I'm willing to have some of it not go through. (Anyone, replies and
> > > arguments should be sent directly to me if you want to be sure I
see them.)
> > >
> > > When I did the Superliterate training (The Primary Rundown), I
realized
> > > that it was literacy that underlies clearing. If you can't label
things,
> > > whether in a clay demo or in a session, you can't get a handle on
them.
> > > And you can't get clear. Or you won't stay clear.
> > >
> > > Another really important point, one that can be taken as
offensive, but
> > > please don't: English is THE language of clearing.
> > >
> > > We live on a prison planet, kept from recovering ourselves by
artificially
> > > imposed conflicting cultures, religions and languages. We are
kept in
> > > confusion and violently, politically or socially at war among
ourselves, so
> > > as to be a self-suppressing populace and require the minimum of
outside
> > > policing and control.
> > >
> > > Ron never said so, but I will: We came here as a project team,
and the
> > > FIRST item in the establishment of clearing was the creation of
the English
> > > culture, and then the American when the English couldn't get past
the petty
> > > politics and religions of Europe. The United States was founded
with the
> > > correct form of government and the correct language for all that has
> > > happened good in the world since 1789. We, the mission officers and
> > > members, working all over the world but primarily here in the US,
have
> > > either caused or inspired and protected all that is good in the
world we
> > > now have.
> > >
> > > NOTE! I am saying nothing good here about the American
government. The
> > > sitting authority bears little resemblance to the proscribed
structure.
> > > Things have drifted. That's why we're in trouble. In the world,
and in
> > > clearing. That's the big time crunch Ron sometimes alluded to.
> > >
> > > But we can pull it off. We must work hard in the US to correct
the errors
> > > of "public policy" (itself _not_ a US constitutional concept!)
And we must
> > > work hard to have and teach the correct tech. English is the
support tool
> > > of design. So, yes, part of the study materials was to quietly
force the
> > > learning of English, without saying so, so as to avoid an insult and
> > > argument. Truth be known, English is much the language as where
we trained
> > > for this mission. It wasn't invented here, and it is not merely
a cultural
> > > phenomenon or social accident.
> > >
> > > As a side note, but a relevant one, this is part of the hidden
agenda so
> > > many people felt and feel, and object to. That's why I don't
hide it,
> > > because to have a hidden agenda means that you can't even say
that it is
> > > honorable in the end. You can't admit it exists. Thus you leave
yourself
> > > open to well-founded suspicion. So, I say, let's be open, tell
the truth
> > > and admit the entire package, and let the upsets be transient as
we stay
> > > the course to freedom.
> > >
> > > The Primary Rundown was invaluable to me in recovering my identity.
> > > Whether the Key to Life course is enough of the same thing I
don't know,
> > > and whether you should continue inside the Co$ is a decision to
be made by
> > > you alone. Use my Reservation Standing Procedure if you have
difficulty
> > > doing that.
> > >
> > > All the best, I'd like to hear how it goes.
> > >
> > > -0-
> > >
> > > -5 Reservation Disoriented and paralyzed by indecision; held back
> > > by uncertainty or turmoil; uncommitted.
> > >
> > > Statistical Indicator: Erratic, with a
> > > discernable downward trend.
> > >
> > > Objective: Make a commitment.
> > >
> > > 1. Evaluate your intentions and objectives relative
> > > to yourself.
> > > 2. Evaluate your personal statistics in terms of
> > > your performance to date in pursuing your
> > > intentions and objectives.
> > > 3. Confirm for yourself what your standards are for
> > > the life and activities with which you desire to
> > > involve yourself.
> > > 4. Review your alternatives.
> > > 5. Evaluate the actual worth and/or intentions and
> > > activities of the alternative(s) you are
> > > considering.
> > > 6. If the alternatives in question are entities
> > > with which you are considering alliances,
> > > examine their statistics and principles, etc.,
> > > and compare them to your own.
> > > 7. Decide, on the basis of consistency with your
> > > own standards and the broadest benefit across
> > > your domains, whether an alternative should be
> > > neglected or pursued.
> > > 8. Select the alternative which best meets or most
> > > exceeds your standards, compares most favorably
> > > with your standards overall, and is also most in
> > > alignment with your life goals, principles and
> > > purposes.
> > > 9. Reject the selection you have just made if it
> > > doesn't really meet your standards and alignment
> > > criteria, and drop back to step 4, remembering
> > > to look for additional alternatives.
> > > 10. Develop and adopt an acceptable self-image of
> > > proactive involvement with the chosen
> > > alternative(s).
> > > 11. Announce your decision appropriately to any
> > > legitimately interested parties.
> > > 12. Take immediate action to establish a firm and
> > > ethical foundation for success with respect to
> > > the alternative(s) upon which you have decided.
> > > a. If your decision in doing this procedure has
> > > resulted in your reaffirming an already
> > > existing alternative, and if having wavered
> > > from it (or having gone through this process
> > > to confirm your commitment) has lowered your
> > > standing in that position, determine your new
> > > standing and follow its procedure, then work
> > > on up through the appropriate procedures and
> > > get your position repaired.
> > > b. If your decision in doing this procedure has
> > > resulted in your reaffirming an already
> > > existing alternative but going through this
> > > renewed decision process has not lowered your
> > > status, work on up through the procedures
> > > from your current standing and continue to
> > > move forward to success.
> > > c. If your decision in doing this procedure has
> > > resulted in a new project, pursuit, or
> > > position, apply the Commencement procedure to
> > > that activity.
> > >
> > > --------
> > >
> > > Allen, Speaker | spea...@asc.org
> > > ASC Missions Group -0- http://www.asc.org
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> >
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