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Replay B62


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From: Antony Phillips <i...@post8.tele.dk>

To: tro...@newciv.org

Subject: TROM: Replay B62


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From*: random...@null.net*

To: "TROM LIST" <tro...@newciv.org>

Subject: *TROM & Scientology*

Date: Sat, 17 Oct *1998*18:47:50 +0200


NOTE: This message is targeted at those who have a basic understanding of

Scienetology, If you don't and just are interested in TROM, pls ignore, and

continue what you are doing.


So, only the curious and {ex} Scientyologist are left right... :)


When I read Trom, about 2 months ago, it HIT, I cognited it was written from

a higher Q than Scientology as it is currently applied, went up-the-pole.

and I had a new, much simpler model to evaluate life.


>From what I have found so far, it obviousely does not have the same efffect


on everybody who reads it.


Which is an interesting effect.


As far as I can see, Ron's model does free a being from part of his case if

applied, but at the same time traps the being in a whole lot of his

opinions.


Evaluating these opinions against the TROM model easely blows them.


EXAMPLE: "Production is the basis of morale"


This is typically a "Must Be Know" statement. "Consumption is the basis of

morale" is equally valid of course, and even "No Production" and "No

Consumption" are a basis of morale.


Scietology seems to slanted towards the "Must Be Know" postulate for the PC,

staff member and source, and the "Must Know" postulate for the Auditor, C/S

etc.


When you look at it that way, all CoS troubles are part of the 3-d "TROM

CASE".


All beings trapped by the CoS could be freed to the next level when we find

out a way to process the 3-d TROM CASE of the CoS.


So, for those that have a purpose of getting all those beings 'untrapped' it

would be nice to find a way to apply TROM to the CoS 3-d (or any 3-d for

that matter).


Anyone on the list care to do some research in this direction? Anyone has

some ideas as to how to aproach this?




*Honzo Svasek == random...@null.net*


"Axiom 81: Sanity consists of optimum randomity"

- from the Dianetic Axioms by L. Ron Hubbard -



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Date: Sun, 18 Oct *1998*18:39:35 -0700

From: *Randy Nicholson *<b...@best.com>

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To: Nori Avidan <nor...@netvision.net.il>,

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Subject: Re: *SelfClear: Re: FW: Request for Help on Clearing path*


Yes Nori,


Its well worth it, I would do it and hope to one day. Maybe using the TROM manual or the english

dictionary as the materials being studied. It is or was a SCN course package at one time and I am not

sure if it is still offered. I would not be allowed to do it through the C of SCN but have enough

information having done the student hat course to get me going.


All the best to you .

*Randy Nicholson*



Nori Avidan wrote:


> Hi Randy,

>

> Thank you for the quotes.

> Does it worth the effort according to your opinon & experience ?

...snip...

> > For information, write to majord...@gem.lightlink.com with the single

> > message line: info selfclearing-l

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