DavidM wrote: >> If the blood of a lowly lamb can atone for sin, >> how much more can the blood of a righteous man >> born of the seed of Adam atone for sin.
Judy wrote: > The blood of lowly lambs was a temporary measure > which never did atone for sin - it only covered > the sin of Israel as a nation one year - they all > looked ahead to the coming of the promised seed. The blood of lambs, while temporary, most certainly did atone for sin. Atonement means covering, so you contradict yourself when you say that it never did atone for sin - it only covered the sin. And if he bring a lamb for a sin offering, he shall bring it a female without blemish. And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay it for a sin offering in the place where they kill the burnt offering. And the priest shall take of the blood of the sin offering with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar: And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat of the lamb is taken away from the sacrifice of the peace offerings; and the priest shall burn them upon the altar, according to the offerings made by fire unto the LORD: and the priest SHALL MAKE AN ATONEMENT FOR HIS SIN that he hath committed, and it shall be forgiven him. (Leviticus 4:32-35 KJV) DavidM wrote: >> On the other hand, if Jesus did not have the >> blood of Adam coursing through his veins, he >> would have been disqualified from being an >> eternal sacrifice for our sin. Judy wrote: > What basis in fact do you have for the above statement? This is the conclusion I have come to from years of studying why God had to be clothed with flesh. Why did Christ become flesh? Jesus had to come in the likeness of sinful flesh to condemn sin in the flesh. There also are legal reasons for it. The Bible teaches that Satan is the god of this world, and he offered Jesus all the kingdoms of this world if he would worship him. How did Satan get all this? By deception and stealing. God had the power to take it all away from him by force. Why become flesh? Why suffer? Why humble himself per Philippians 2? The answer comes to us when we consider the legal aspects of ownership and authority. Jesus had to become a man to rightful redeem man. If you deny that Jesus Christ became flesh of the seed of Adam, Abraham, and David, you have a whole lot of explaining to do about why become a man at all which was subject to the pain and misery that Jesus experienced. Such was unnecessary if his true humanity was unnecessary. Judy wrote: > The blood of Adam is a contaminant and this is > why we are in need of redemption. On what basis in fact do you make this claim? Does the blood of humans prevent the Holy Ghost from indwelling us? Do you imagine some physical change in our blood that happens upon conversion? Judy wrote: > You did not answer my question re the 'virgin birth' DavidM. > Why the need for a virgin birth if your theory is correct? I did answer your question. There is absolutely no need for the virgin birth, other than it serving as a prophetic sign, like the shadow of the sun dial moving back 10 degrees. DavidM wrote: >> If Jesus had come through some other way, he >> would have been a thief and a robber. However, >> Jesus came through the door, that is to say, >> his flesh. Judy wrote: > The door is Jesus Himself, (you have added the word > flesh) Jesus is our door, but human flesh was the door by which Jesus came into the sheepfold to lead and guide us and redeem mankind. Judy wrote: > ... Jesus is NOT a flesh body. Have you not read the testimony of Scripture? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not FLESH and bones, AS YE SEE ME HAVE. And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. And he took it, and did eat before them. (Luke 24:39-43 KJV) For MANY DECEIVERS are entered into the world, WHO CONFESS NOT THAT JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. (2 John 1:7 KJV) Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
