From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 22:01:00 -0700
Blaine: Perry, thank you for always being willing to lower the ladder for me, that I might climb up where you presume to be. If nothing else, your heart is in the right place. We Mormons do have some doctrines that are foreign to your old system of thought, but they came from God. If you cannot accept Jesus as being a dynamic, caring, intervening God, fully capable of taking the reins and directing his church directly and through his chosen prophets, then I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree.
Blaine, that the LDS are endowed with a blindness that prevents them from seeing the differences between the LDS god and jesus, and the God and Jesus of the Bible is unfortunate. They are not the same. Now, as to whether worshipping a different god and jesus than those of the Bible will preclude you from salvation, I cannot make that judgement. I can only say that the LDS god and jesus are foreign to the Bible, and to me.
The God of the Bible is infinite, the only God, He is God in eternity past and is God in eternity future. He is NOT from Kolob, He was NOT once a man who became a god, He did NOT come to earth and have physical sex with Mary to produce Jesus, He did NOT have many spiritual Mrs. gods to have sex with and produce spirits to populate the bodies born on earth. That is all wrong, Blaine, and unbiblical.
Correct me if I am wrong, but to me you seem to insist he is a standpat, gagged and hogtied god who can do nothing new.
Those are your words and your impression of the God of the Bible. I do not see Him that way. I see him as sovereign God that He is. It is you that have given your god man-like qualities.
Sorry, but I cannot accept that. Take care, old buddy, and keep in touch, as we never know when the right teachable moments in our lives will be. (:>)
Perry
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious
> >Blaine wrote: So I must be a Christian. If you still don't believe this,
> >please tell me your reasoning--but withold your biases, as I am not
> >interested in noisy nonsense or insulting word-offal.
>
> Blaine, Blaine, Blaine. I have been over this several times on TT. Since
you
> worship a DIFFERENT Jesus and a DIFFERENT God than the Jesus and God of
the
> Bible, then you are not a Christian. I have given a fairly involved
> explanation in posts a few months back of how I know that the LDS God and
> Jesus are not the Biblical God and Jesus.
>
> Perry
>
>
> >From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious
> >Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:16:03 -0700
> >
> >Blaine: I keep wondering, when people say I am not a Christian because I
> >am a Mormon, if they even know what they are saying. It seems to me they
> >haven't really thought anything through, they are just parroting what
they
> >have heard someone say.
> >Am I a Muslim? Nope, I do not worship Mohammed, or believe Mohammed was
a
> >prophet. Am I a Jew? Nope, I believe the Messiah arrived as Jesus
Christ.
> > Am I an Atheist? Nope, I believe in God.
> >Do I believe in and worship Jesus Christ? Yup. ----- Original Message
> >-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 3/27/2004 5:04:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > jt: Where would you come up with an idea like that? You can not be
> >Mormon/Christian
> > any more than you can be Jew/Christian.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regarding the Jew/Christian thing: read Acts 21. More than that --
> >virtually all of Paul's problems in the church was caused by a brand of
> >legalism called Judaism.
> > Alexander the copper smith was probably a Jew/Christian. I personally
> >believe that Alexander was yhe reason Paul was prosecuted unto death
> >(Alexander has cause me much harm). Evidence of the Jewish church is
> >abundant in both Romans and Hebrews. It is just very short sighted to
NOT
> >see the Jewish/Christian church in the biblical message. It is actually
> >everywhere.
> >
> >
> > Anyway -- I have to clean the pool. It is a great day here in
> >Fresno.
> >
> > John Smithson
>
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