Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

[Charles Perry Locke]

It does answer the question, Terry, but let me take this a step further. Do 
you think it is possible that this pastor never really believed in the first 
place? Perhaps he just reached the point where he became honest about his 
unbelief. I have a hard time imagining that those who truly believe would 
ever turn away, or to put it another way, that God could not retiain those 
whom the Holy Spirit has drawn to Him.

Perry

From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:47:19 -0500
Charles Perry Locke wrote:

Terry, do you believe that one who is saved can lose that salvation?

Perry

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Wow! That seems like such a simple question, but it would take pages to 
give you a complete answer. Put simply, I do not believe that you can lose 
your 
salvation...................................but,................................... 
I believe that you can throw it away.
The Bible teaches that the same one who saved you is able to keep you, but 
it does not say that He will force you to stay against your will.  I offer 
as an example a pastor, who a few years back, resigned  as minister of his 
church.  The reason he gave was that he no longer believed what he had been 
preaching.  He was a believer, now he is not.  Had he died prior to making 
his decision to no longer believe, he would have gone to Heaven.  Now his 
future appears to be the lake of fire.  I think that this is rare compared 
to those who at one time claimed or are claiming to be Christians, only to 
show their true colors after being tested over time, but yes, it does 
happen, and when it does, I believe that that person is no longer saved.  
God will not force anyone to spend eternity with Him.
Hope this answers your question at least to some degree.
Terry





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