RE: [TruthTalk] from O'Reilley to you

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] from O'Reilley to you   In a message dated 9/2/2004 6:23:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, What is there to obey except God’s commandments? Izzy What commands?   The Sabboth observance, Laws of cleanliness?  etc.  or love God and love your neighbor as yourself? We no longer have (or need) temple sacrifices and the Levitical priesthood.  We no longer live in a religious theocratic government, requiring the religious leaders (like in Israel) to enforce governmental laws—although they should be and certainly are used as the gold standard for civil laws today.  We should obey any of the moral laws that remain—just as Jesus did.  He summed them up well—love God and your neighbor.  I believe, personally, that loving God means remembering His Sabbath, as He wrote that it is established forever, and His Word never rescinded that commandment. If you wish to live a healthy life and believe that God knows best about that subject, you might take seriously the laws regarding food and cleanliness. I am just learning about them in that respect myself. Law keeping is not a salvation issue.  Only the Blood cleanses us from sin.  God has written his law in your heart (if you have the Holy Spirit), if you will listen to what it tells you.  “Law keeping” (which just means believing/obeying God’s commandments) is a way to avoid sin and live a sanctified life.  I do not consider myself to be the Enforcer of the Law; that is the job of the Holy Spirit—to woo hearts that hear.  End of story.  Izzy Ok (and a very good reply, I might add), we are not talking about the salvation issue.   We all agree that one is saved at the point of conviction apart from obedience to law  (Ro 3:28).  That obedience is a natural extension of our conviction that Jesus really is the Son of God.  That the Spirit has been given to us as a seal or guarantee of our salvation and that spirit of God  expresses itself in  love -- since God is love.    The Ten Commandments are in effect -- #'s 1-10 and not much else.   That New Testament scripture is all about bring us back to the Original or Old Law. How am I doing?   I ask you since Tim is not in the habit of making specific answer to my responses.  the disciple, John Smithson   Well, 90% ain’t bad. J I’ll wait for Tim to give you the true skinny.  Izzy