Well said! By the by there's none of this in what church?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: November 19, 2004 11:50
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two Covenants?


> When I signed up for Truth talk I was under the
> impression that we would be talking about the
> Truth(God's Word). And we have done that a little. But
> lately my inbox has been filled with fighting and
> sarcastic remarks going back and forth to one another.
>
> I am saddened by this. Instead of focussing on God's
> Word, there is arguing and tearing down. If we truly
> are the body of Christ, we need to start acting like
> it. Please stop the finger pointing. "You did this."
> "No, I didn't." or "You meant this." "No, I didn't."
>
> Let's focus on God's Word! Let's edify each other like
> Bill has commited himself to do. If what you say does
> not build up, don't say it. If you disagree with
> someone tell them with love not with sarcasm. This is
> one I have been working on because I can be very
> sarcastic. It was pointed out to me that sarcasm
> usually tears people down and it is not funny to the
> person on the receiving end no matter where they live.
>
> James tells us about the power of the tongue. We all
> (I include myself) need to control our tongue. Chp. 3-
>
>
> Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren,
> knowing that as such we will incur a stricter
> judgment. For we all stumble in many ways. If anyone
> does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man,
> able to bridle the whole body as well. Now if we put
> the bit into the horses' mouths so that they will obey
> us, we direct their entire body as well. Look at the
> ships also, though they are so great and are driven by
> strong winds, are still directed by a very small
> rudder wherever the inclination of the pilot desires.
> So also the tongue is a small part of the body, and
> yet it boasts of great things.
>
> See how great a forest is set aflame by such a small
> fire! And the tongue is a fire, the very world of
> iniquity; the tongue is set amoung our members as that
> which defiles the entire body, and sets on fire the
> course of our life, and is set on fire by hell. For
> every species of beasts and birds, of reptiles and
> creatures of the sea is tamed and has been tamed by
> the human race. But no one can tame the tongue; it is
> a restless evil and full of deadly poison. With it we
> bless our Lord and Father and with it we curse men,
> who have been made in the lieness of God; from the
> same mouth come both blessing and cursing. My
> brethren, these things ought not to be this way. Does
> a fountain send out from the same opening both fresh
> and bitter water? Can a fig tree, my brethren, produce
> olives, or a vine produce figs? Nor can salt water
> produce fresh.
>
> Who amoung you is wise and understanding? Let him show
> by his good behavior his deeds the the gentleness of
> wisdom. But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish
> ambition in your heart, do not be arrogant and so lie
> against the truth. The wisdom is not that which comes
> down from above, but it is earthly, natural, demonic.
> For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there
> is disorder and every evil thing. But the wisdom from
> above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle,
> reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering,
> without hypocricy. And the seed whose fruit is
> righteousness is sown in peace by those who make
> peace.
>
> 1 Corinthians 10:1- If I speak with the tongues of men
> and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a
> noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
>
> Ephesians 4:29-5:2 - Let no unwholesome word proceed
> from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for
> edification according to the need of the moment, so
> that it will give grace to those who hear. Do not
> grieve the Holy Spirit of God by whom you were sealed
> for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness and
> wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away
> from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one
> another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as
> God in Christ also has forgiven you. Therefore be
> imitators of God, as beloved children; and walk in
> love, just as Christ also loves you and gave Himself
> up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a
> fragrant aroma.
>
> Matthew 5:9- Blessed are the peacemakers for they
> shall be called sons of God.
>
> I pray that the fighting and sarcasm will end. If not
> Jonathan is right TT will cease to exist.
>
> Suzy
>
> --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I believe that naught will come from further
> > pursuance of this 'thread'. Beep Beep
> >
> > Let us press on to matters of greater import while
> > awaiting the 'master builder's' forthcoming epistle.
> > Beep Beep again
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Judy Taylor
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: November 19, 2004 09:42
> >   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two Covenants?
> >
> >
> >   jt: Thanks for the interpretation Izzy. I used to
> > post more scripture but stopped because there was
> > never any
> >   response and it was a lot of work finding chapter
> > and verse even though it is in my heart. If I see
> > any interest I would be glad to go back to doing
> > that.  I seem to recall a while back that  Lance
> > told Bill Taylor I was knocking him out with them.
> > Strange!!  My mind does not work along these lines
> > and my battle is not with flesh and blood.
> >
> >   My question to Lance is:
> >   1) You say Izzy is correct on the former and since
> > "out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth
> > speaks" Why is your heart filled with Star Wars and
> > C3PO type talk?  2) How can you know how Izzy and I
> > live our lives from email alone?  Not much evidence
> > on which to form a judgment.
> >
> >
> >   On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:19:36 -0500 "Lance Muir"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >     As to 'interpretation':You are correct on the
> > former and incorrect on the latter.
> >
> >     Ladies both:Your lives carry the day while your
> > 'posts' SOMETIMES do not. But, so could it be said
> > of us all.(as to the 'posts' part)
> >       ----- Original Message ----- 
> >       From: ShieldsFamily
> >       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >       Sent: November 19, 2004 09:14
> >       Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Two Covenants?
> >
> >
> >       Judy, I think this is a good example of how we
> > often misunderstand Lance simply because he talks
> > much like "C3PO" on Star Wars.  I think he was not
> > saying that you have not "arrived".  I think he was
> > saying that you should cite more scriptures in
> > support of what you said.  (Now THAT's interesting,
> > coming from someone who almost never does that
> > himself, isn't it???) Izzy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >       On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 07:08:41 -0500 "Lance
> > Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >         Judyt:I seem to recall having said to you
> > and, to Linda that I honestly believe both of you to
> > be 'doers' of the Word. I further believe that, not
> > unlike many on TT, it is POSSIBLE that the 'account
> > you give in support of what you do' is less than
> > adequate.(read scriptures cited in support of what
> > you said)  Do continue to hold my, and all others',
> > feet to the 'Biblical fire'.
> >
> >
> >
> >         jt: I don't ever remember proclaiming I have
> > 'arrived' Lance and I don't judge myself daily by
> > what I do or don't do. Of course what I do is less
> > than adequate but I am learning and it is God who is
> > at work in me and this is why I rejoice to wake up
> > each morning wherever I'm at ...
> >
> >
>
>
>
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