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Bill when you use the term "the nature of humanity" you
are using a theological term and I have no idea whether or not you are saying
the same thing as I am. This is what I have been talking about all
along. You claim Jesus had a fallen Adamic nature just like us. Paul
describes how this works in Romans 7:17 where he says that when he does what he
really doesn't want to do that it is not he who does it but sin that dwells in
him and he later says that overcoming this tendency is in the "power of the
cross".
What I am saying is the Romans 7:17 did not apply to
Jesus when he walked this earth in a body of flesh because His flesh did not
have sin dwelling in it. (Note: Paul's sin here was not volitional)
judyt
Okay, and now you are talking about the NATURE of
his humanity. Why are you too proud to admit that? Bill
No problem with His human body Bill, it was then
just like ours is now but without the taint of sin - like Romans 7 would not
have applied to him as it does to us. Today he has a transformed body
that can walk through walls. judyt
Still trying to confuse the issue, Judy? I
told Kevin we could have a discussion on the particulars of his human
nature, but that does not suit you well, does it? Did Jesus leave
footprints when he walked in the sand? It's a little difficult to answer
that question without talking about the nature of his human body, isn't
it, Judy?
Bill
That's the wrong question, Kevin. We can
discuss the particulars of those natures if you like,
but Judy's claim is that Jesus did not have TWO
natures. Do you agree with her? Bill
jt: Kevin, I say he had a
human body and a divine nature (meaning pure and holy and in the image
of God the Father same as the first Adam) whereas Bill and his ppl
along with the Church Fathers teach that Jesus was born exactly like us
in every way or else we are not healed because what is not assumed is
not healed - to which there is no rhyme or reason. The very
facts surrounding his birth belie such an assumption.
Which two natures are you
asking about? Human/Divine -
Impeccability/peccability of
ChristBill Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: Judy wrote > It wasn't unnoticed
Lance but not all of us (me included) believe that Jesus
had two natures.
Would all
those who believe that Jesus did not have two natures -- one fully
human, the other fully divine -- please weigh in? (the Mormons may
exclude themselves if they wish). It would be nice to know how
lonesome it's going to be around here. Bill
It
wasn't unnoticed Lance but not all of us (me
included) believe that Jesus had two
natures. We fallen ones are
the double natured and double minded ones (after we have received Him and have been born of the
Spirit) and before we grow into the unity of the faith. Why didn't
you respond to Bill's post since you seem
to be able to relate to everything he writes? judyt
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:44:43 -0500
"Lance Muir" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes: Gary:When you are right.........Bill
Taylor wrote a masterful treatment on the two natures of Christ. It
went largely unnoticed. And you...you're good you!
(Crystal/DeNiro) I hope it works out the three of you to spend that
time together.
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