This is both evasive and, a non-answer. I've done
the same myself multitudinous times on TT so, I can't hold your feet to the
fire. However, one can't fail to notice that both Christine and yourself have no
real answer for this reality. Which reality? The reality that the majority (pun
intended) of believers on the globe read from a bible which is not the
counterpart to the KJV. May I ask those of you (Kevin, Christine and David) who
worship the pages, covers and indexing to lighten up a bit and, let God be
God.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 02, 2005 21:23
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV
Bible Quiz
The Bibles that have out & out lies and ERRORS in them can not
possibly be God's word.
It may say Bible, it may look like a Bible, but a FALSE WITNESS utters
lies!
The Word of God is recorded in the Bible that we may know what is
required of us and that we might DO IT!
Tell me what you make of that observation.
Well obviously those that do not speak ENGLISH would have a Bible that is
based on the Recieved text.
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
It is wise for one to remember that the Word of
God is Jesus Christ. It is also wise to remember that His (God's) Words do
not return void. Take care, Kevin, not confuse your role with that of the
Spirit of God. I've found God to be at work EVEN THROUGH THE KJV! Just
imagine!
Speaking of 'imagine': Imagine yourself able to
see every believer at once on the entire globe. Imagine them to be lit up
like a little light. Then, imagine yourself able to see the Bible (or
portion thereof) they had with them. How many of them do you believe are
carrying the KJV? Now, don't make a smart remark, please. Tell me what you
make of that observation.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 02, 2005 16:48
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk]
NIV Bible Quiz
the work of Catholic
scholars
It is amazing how some can stand the facts on their head.
The UBS text used for the Moderne Bibles:
Jesuit
cardinal Carlo Maria Martini (1927- ) is the Roman
Catholic Archbishop of Milan. Since 1967, has been one of
the editors of the United Bible Societies Greek New Testament. His diocese
in Europe is the largest in the world, with two thousand priests and five
million "laity." He is Professor of New Testament Textual Criticism at the
Pontifical Biblical Institute in Rome. He is also President of the Council
of European Bishop's Conferences. A Time magazine, article reported
that Martini brought together a syncretistic convocation
of over 100 religious leaders from around the world to promote a
new age, one-world religion. In addressing this meeting,
Mikhail Gorbachev said, "We need to synthesize a new
religion for thinking men that will
universalize that religion for the world and
lead us into a new age."
Bruce Metzger modernist and approved ROMANIST New Oxford Annotated Bible RSV 1973
The first edition 1962 was the first Protestant annotated edition of the
Bible to be approved by a Roman authority. It was given
an imprimatur in 1966 by Cardinal Cushing, Archbishop of Boston,
Massachusetts
HERETICS Eugene Nida is the father of the
blasphemous dynamic equivalency theory of Bible translation. Nida was the
Executive Secretary of the Translations Department of the United Bible
Societies from 1943 to 1980. As to his view of biblical inspiration, Nida
says, "... God’s revelation involved limitations. ...
Biblical revelation is not absolute and all divine revelation is
essentially incarnational. ... Even if a truth is given only in
words, it has no real validity until it has been translated into life. ...
The words are in a sense nothing in and of themselves.
... the word is void unless related to experience" (Nida, Message and
Mission, p. 222-228).
Kurt Aland "This idea of
verbal inspiration (i.e., of the literal and
inerrant inspiration of the text), which the orthodoxy of both Protestant
traditions maintained so vigorously, was applied to the Textus Receptus
with all of its errors, including textual modifications of an obviously
secondary character (as we recognize them today)" (Aland, The Problem
of the New Testament Canon, 1962, pp. 6,7).
BEWARE of these new versions!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Normally when a host of scholars and translation committees
using the most recent manuscript discoveries all agree against a
publication that is nearly 300 aol years old and the work of Catholic
scholars (save the one lone Evangleical, King James), common
wisdom would allow for the "new" translation. To use the KJV
to condemn all the others is to pretend that there is something special
about the KJV bordiering on the inspired. Silly..
JD -----Original Message----- From:
Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 05:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re:
[TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
A little poison along the way is NO PROBLEM!
For those that have no
discernment - ENJOY
"Every word of God is pure" Prov.
30:5.
The PURE Word of God????
(TLB) 1 Samuel 20:30: "You son of a
bitch."
NLT "stupid son of a whore."
NJB and MSG "son of a rebellious slut"
See if you can pick out the RIGHT
ONE:
RV: "Elhanan...slew Goliath the Gittite."
ASV: "Elhanan...slew Goliath the Gittite."
RSV: "Elhanan...slew Goliath the Gittite."
NWT: "Elhanan...got to strike down Goliath."
NASV: "Elhanan...killed Goliath of Gath."
NEB: "Elhanan...killed Goliath of Gath."
LB: "Elhanan...killed the brother of Goliath."
GNB: "Elhanan...killed Goliath from Gath."
NIV: "Elhanan...killed Goliath the Gittite."
KJV: "Elhanan...slew the brother of
Goliath." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, He most certainly can. The message of grace
is still there (that is where God does the work and you
receive the blessings). The reconciliation of all things
is still there (that's where God does all the work and you
receive the blessings). Christ still died for all, even if it
was on a stick (that is where forgiveness is decleared and not
earned ---- God does the work and we receive the
blessings)..
Whats the problem??
JD -----Original Message----- From: Kevin
Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:26:51 -0700
(PDT) Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
How many others think God uses the Jehovah Witness
NWT? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Affirmative (I'd designate the appropriate
rant but, do not know it) Including the NWT. Yes, indeedee
doo
----- Original Message -----
Sent: May 31, 2005
10:18
Subject: [Bulk] Re:
[TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Kenneth Taylor's Living Bible (TLB) 1 Samuel 20:30: "You
son of a bitch."
NLT "stupid son of a whore."
NJB and MSG "son of a rebellious slut"
Another beauty:
TLB 1 KINGS 18:27 "Perhaps he is talking to someone or
else is out sitting on the toilet."
Then of course their is the New World
translation that is powerfully used (Worked Thru) of God,
right Lance?
Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
IFF
God 'works through' the disparate characters on TT (IMO He
Does), then He most assuredly 'works through' every
translation of His Bible (I truly do mean every translation).
It's a matter of those criteria that need be present enabling
one to be superior to another.
Do you, David, see this as
analogous to God 'working through' your preaching and the
bishop's?
----- Original Message ----- From:
"David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TruthTalk"
Sent: May 30, 2005
15:32 Subject: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] NIV Bible
Quiz
> I received this in my inbox and thought
some might like to take this test. > I think we may have
posted this some years back on TruthTalk. > David
Miller. > > ------------------- > NIV BIBLE
QUIZ > > INSTRUCTIONS: > Using the New
International Versionª Bible (NIV), > answer the foll
owing questions. Do not rely on your > memory. As the
Bible is the final authority, you must > take the answer
from the NIV Bible verse (Not from > footnotes but from
the text. Footnotes are not the Bible.). > > 1. Fill
in the missing words in Matthew 5:44. "Love your enemies,
________ > them that curse you, _____________ to them that
hate you, and pray for them > that __________ and
persecute you." > 2. According to Matthew 17:21, what two
things are required to cast out this > type of
devil? > 3. According to Matthew 18:11, why did Jesus come
to earth? > 4. According to Matthew 27:2, what was
Pilate's first name? > 5. In Matthew 27:35, when the
wicked soldiers parted His garments, they were >
fulfilling the words of the prophet. Copy what the prophet said
in Matthew > 27:35 from the NIV. 6. In Mark 3:15, Jesus
gave the apostles power to cast > out devils and
to: > 7. According to Mark 7:16, what does a man need to
be able to h ear? > 8. According to Luke 7:28, what was
John? (teacher, prophet, carpenter, > etc.). What is his
title or last name? > 9. In Luke 9:55, what did the
disciples not know? > 10. In Luke 9:56, what did the Son
of man not come to do? According to this > verse, what
did He come to do? > 11. In Luke 22:14, how many apostles
were with Jesus? > 12. According to Luke 23:38, in what
three languages was the superscription >
written? > 13. In Luke 24:42, what did they give Jesus to
eat with His fish? > 14. John 3:13 is a very important
verse, proving the deity of Christ. > According to this
verse (as Jesus spoke), where is the Son of man? > 15.
What happened each year as told in John 5:4? > 16. In John
7:50, what time of day did Nicodemus come to Jesus? > 17.
In Acts 8:37, what is the one requirement for baptism? >
18. What did Saul ask Jesus in Acts 9:6? > 19. Write the
name of the man mentioned in Acts 15:34. > 20. Study Acts
24:6- 8. What would the Jew have done with Paul? What
was the > chief captain's name? What did the chief
captain command? > 21. Copy Romans 16:24 word for word
from the NIV. > 22. First Timothy 3:16 is perhaps the
greatest verse in the New Testament > concerning the deity
of Christ. In this verse, who was manifested in the >
flesh? > 23. In the second part of First Peter 4:14, how
do [they] speak of Christ? > And, what do we Christians
do? > 24. Who are the three Persons of the Trinity in
First John 5:7? > 25. Revelation 1:11 is another very
important verse that proves the deity of > Christ. In
the first part of this verse Jesus said, "I am the
A__________ > and O___________ , the _________ and the
_______:" > > Conclusion: Little space is provided
for your answers, but it's much more > than needed. If you
followed the instructions above, you not only
failed the > test, you receive a big goose egg. So now
what do you think of your > " ac curate,
easy-to-understand, up-to-date Bible"? If these 25
questions > haven't served to show you that the NIV is a
very inferior Bible, based on a > very inferior Greek
text, write me and I'll make up another quiz with 25 >
more questions, or 250, if you wish; but you will still flunk
the text. If > you would like to improve your score, and
in fact score 100%, you can take > this test using the
Authorized (King James) Bible . > by Rex L.
Cobb > > NIV Reader: Do you have enough confidence
in the NIV to... > tell God, OUT LOUD, that the NIV is
correct in deleting > these words (64,098 words to be
exact) & phrases? > > > ---------- >
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