Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death

[Judy Taylor]

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:13:18 -0600 "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mar 12.30 'And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.' This is the first commandment. I told Izzy that I thought there was a spiritual element included in Jesus' statement: "Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead." But I also told her that I thought it was not just directed at the spirit aspect of personhood: "those who reject Christ are doing so with their entire being -- mind, body, soul, and spirit." To which Judy responded with ridicule, implying instead that Jesus' statement was only in reference to the spiritual aspect, i.e., it was a reference to spiritual death and nothing else.* jt: Bill, I don't see it as ridicule to say what the Bible says.  There is no way a physically dead person can get out there and dig a hole in order to bury another physically dead person now is there?  In scripture this concept of death is that of being separated from God because of sin which as I have been saying is what happened to A&E in the garden. Anything else is confusion. Judy, if first century Jews prior to the cross were called to love God with all their hearts, souls, minds, and strength, what do you suppose they were not doing when they refused to follow his Son? jt: Only disciples were being called to follow the son at this point (Matt 8:22, Luke 9:60) - Also I would like to point out that the same _expression_ is used in the parable of the Prodigal Son who was dead in the pigpen and returned to life after a change of heart (now is alive).  It is also used in Ephesians 2:1 and in 1 Timothy 5:6. judyt   Bill   * When He says "death" he means "death" and since the death Adam experienced that day was not physical, nor was it alzheimers (brain or soul death).  What do you suppose it was? ... The dead burying their dead is not speaking of physical or soulish death since they were able to dig a hole and had presence of mind enough not to let a dead body just lay around.