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I'm fully aware that a case can made for that which
you, DM, Iz and, Judy, in differing fashions, claim to have achieved in your
lives, Dean. IFO believe this "case" to be abstracted from the realities of
life...even/especially..the life of any believer. Your concluding comment
concerning 'patience' makes my point for me.
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Sent: February 04, 2006 09:30
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Interesting
observation
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw:
Interesting observation
Respectfully and, may it please the
court...maturation this side of ...eschatological consummation...amen!
Sinlessness this side of eschatological consummation..DANGER WILL SMITH (if
you 'google' this phrase you'll see 'heretical
ideals...appropriately-
cd: Lance 1 John 2-12-17 Deals with three levels of
Christian maturely and the last two mentioned overcoming the wicked
one-which means not listening to the one who would lead us into sin-post
salvation.. I would put if up but don't feel anyone would even read it much
lees seek to understand it. So I will simply moderate for a while as my
impatience seems to be getting the better of me-May God bless you and give
me more patience.
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw:
Interesting observation
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw:
Interesting observation
Another thing ................. this argument "God will
not ask of us what we cannot do" is something you need to
rethink.
Have you never said "Come on , walk to Daddy" ?? Have you never
received instruction (Dean, do this and then do that) that you
could not [at first] do?
to imagine that we can be perfect AS GOD IS
-- well, that is to miss the point of goals and the process
of maturity. Further, if God told us nothing that we
cannot (or will not) do, there is no need for sin offering
other than what exists in the Old Law.
cd: The need for the sin offerings wasn't because the people could
not do as instructed-it is a way of removing the quarrel we had with God
by the sin- which is mingled with innocent blood that God loves to make
the offering more pleasing. We can keep from sin John as we are not
renewed in weakness by in power.If we couldn't do so there wouldn't be
any punishment for that sin. The would be not need to put off the old
man which is sin-that is who the old man is John-sin. He is a very ugly
demon following us around tugging at you arm to draw you away and
the only way to leave God is to prefer sin more than God.You are
overlook a whole lot of scripture to cling to error-respectfully- so for
now keep you error for in it is weakness as you seem to love it so much
John-the shame is you- as a Pastor -are teaching this to others and will
not receive correction in this area-which produces weak Christians-who
will never understand why if is important to keep from sin... Know that
we adjust our understanding to the work of now not t he other way around
Bro. May God bless you as I feel I have gone as far as the Spirit would
have me go in this area for now-my prayers are for you John.
jd
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Sent: 2/3/2006 12:02:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw:
Interesting observation
Soooo, the moment of "conversion" presents one with the full
ability to be sinless?
Please tell me you are kidding!!
cd: Christ must have thought so as He clearly states go and sin
no more.Again why would God/Lord instruct us to do something that
was impossible to do-and tells them what will happen if they do
so.Respectfully John this is illogical as you are clearly saying
that there is no difference between the lost and the saved.
Joh 5:14
Afterward3326, 5023
Jesus2424
findeth2147 him846 in1722 the3588 temple,2411 and2532 said2036 unto him,846 Behold,2396
thou art made1096 whole:5199
sin264
no more,3
371 lest3363 a worse5501 thing5100
come1096
unto thee.4671
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From: "Dean Moore"
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cd; To stay in perversion John will change the
chemistry of the body in time but all men are born equal.Naive? I
wish I had remained so on some things sir.
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Fw: Interesting observation
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Sent: 2/2/2006 10:02:36
PM
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] Fw: Interesting observation
Your choice of a racial slur for comparison causes
me concern that you have perhaps been deceived into thinking
that homosexuality is a racial issue, and that homosexuals
are born the way the are. Do you think homosexuals
need special protection from prejudice just
as other minority ethnic groups would? Are
you in agreement with the legalization of homosexuality and
adultery? DM
Well, if we are going to keep them from having jobs ;
if we are going to kill them or put them at the back of the
bus, my answer is "yes."
Homosexuality IMO is the far end of the scale we
call promiscuity. At the same time, I do
believe (in fact, I know ) some are born gender
"confused."
cd; Sin is a choice.God doesn't make mistakes
as in-Oops I meant that one to be a women and
accidently gave him a male organ but I will send
him IT anyway-then they can have conflict
over my word and they can fight it
out while I sit back on my throne and laugh
at those dumb fools. I don't think so John:-)
jd
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From: "Lance Muir"
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David:
It was your predecessors that
lynched the aforementioned. It was your predecessors that
barred the aforementioned entry to churches. It was your
predecessors who generated the plantation mentality still
imbued in the aforementioned. It was your predecessors,
the celebrated founding fathers, who helped form the
bigotry that still characterizes your nation of
'believers'. Do consider the larger context within which
that which you do is seen by those you seek to 'help',
David..........
Sent: February 02,
2006 09:32
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] Fw: Interesting observation
JD wrote:
> Sodomite is a name we call people just
> as "nigger" is a word that
offends.
I don't see it that way, John. Sodomite is a
Biblical word, and it points to a particular sexual
practice. Furthermore, it reminds the hearer of
the Biblical city which brought upon them God's
judgment for accepting and engaging this kind of sexual
behavior. The homosexual agenda has hijacked the
English language by adopting the word "Gay" for
themselves. If they can incorrectly use the word
gay, then I can correctly use the word sodomite to
remind people exactly what we are talking about.
Nevertheless, I ought to make it clear to you
that I rarely use the word "sodomite." In
fact, I suspect that it is possible that I may have
never used the word sodomite, but I could be wrong about
that. I usually talk about the evil of
sodomy, and I often talk about the University's Official
Department of Sodomy or State Sanctioned Sodomy or
Government Funding for the Promotion of Sodomy and
Fornication.
Your choice of a racial slur for comparison causes
me concern that you have perhaps been deceived into
thinking that homosexuality is a racial issue, and that
homosexuals are born the way the are. Do you think
homosexuals need special protection from
prejudice just as other minority ethnic
groups would? Are you in agreement with the
legalization of homosexuality and adultery?
David
Miller.
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