I have thought of three guides to write, but am not sure if they would be
helpful, or which to do first.  Any suggestions?

* Multiple Site Howto -- How to organize classes and actions so that a
single turbine instance can serve multiple sites that may need to share
common functionality
* Service Howto/Introduction -- What services are, why they are nice, and
how to write them
* Non TDK Howto -- I found the TDK confusing because it did a bunch of stuff
that I didn't necessarily want.  So I learned about Turbine by removing
everything, and putting it back in as I needed it.  This document would be a
"tour" in the form of setting up an example app without using the TDK.

Thanks,

Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Eade [mailto:seade@;backstagetech.com.au]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:03 PM
> To: turbine-user
> Subject: Documentation (was: Re: Thanks)
>
>
> I had planned to conduct a review of the t2.2 documentation to
> come up with
> a list of things that need to be done to bring things up to scratch.
> Unfortunately I am just too snowed under at the present to get to this.
>
> I would be surprised (somewhat pleasantly) if someone steps
> forward to take
> up the challenge of bringing the documentation up-to-date.  There are also
> other issues that need to be considered, in particular I don't believe the
> steps involved in extending the turbine schema have even been fully
> developed (anecdotal evidence indicates that several users have attempted
> this to varying degrees of success).
>
> I think the best improvement we can hope for in the short term is for
> specific incremental enhancements to existing documents to correct errors
> and omissions.  These could be posted to the list or better still
> posted as
> patches to the existing xdoc files.  Updating the xdocs and producing the
> patches can be a little intimidating at first, but it is pretty simple.  I
> am happy to process documentation suggestions from email through
> to patches,
> so if you want you can post a message to the list something like:
>
>    The ultimate solution to my problem was ...  My life would have
>    been much easier if the ... document included the following text
>    just above/just below/replacing ...
>
>    ... New or replacement text ...
>
> I don't think we can expect someone to just step forward and solve this
> problem.  We ALL need to make contributions to achieve the
> desired outcome.
>
> I am not complaining about your rant, but if you could direct a similar
> amount of energy to providing a small update to the existing documentation
> that covered the issue at hand then we would be on our way.
>
> Documentation patches are welcome.  I will also try and assist by
> processing
> documentation suggestions contained in email messages through to patches.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Scott
> --
> Scott Eade
> Backstage Technologies Pty. Ltd.
> http://www.backstagetech.com.au
>
>
> > From: "Mitch Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: "Turbine Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:36:44 -0800
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: FW: Thanks
> >
> > A lot of people are pulling out a lot of hair over Turbine.
> Turbine is a
> > great framework that *needs* to exist (I can find no reasonable
> > alternative).  Unfortunately, it is so poorly documented that many folks
> > simply walk away after struggling with it.
> >
> > You can measure this by the number of "Hi, I'm trying to get
> Turbine working
> > but I keep getting an XXX error..." postings that come across,
> and the user
> > is never to be heard from again.
> >
> > Isn't there anyone out there that can spend a little time
> cleaning up the
> > documentation for Turbine?
> >
> > Right now, what Turbine needs is documentation, not new
> features.  If anyone
> > has attempted to extend the turbine schema in any way, or use Intake for
> > that matter.  They quickly realize that it can be an exercise in
> > frustration, admittedly offset somewhat by the elation you feel when you
> > finally figure out (after days of searching) what could have
> been documented
> > in a couple of hours.
> >
> > I'm not being critical, it's just that I sympathize with Bill.
> >
> > The bottom line is that I believe that Turbine should be
> amassing a larger
> > user audience than it has (based on posting volumes to this
> group), and I'm
> > not sure how much longer Turbine can survive without legitimate
> > documentation.  (And I really think Turbine should survive)
> >
> > Sorry for the rant.
> >
> > -Mitch
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill [mailto:bhalpin@;collaborativefusion.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:46 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Thanks
> >
> >
> > The TRP.action.login option was totally the problem!!!!  Thank you so
> > much, I've been pulling my hair out over this. :)
> >
> > -b
> >
> >
> >
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