I would like to suggest that two sections of documentation be created.  

One section is driven entirely by user submission.  It is not formatted
in XML.  It is very much like a FAQ.  The community already has this
right now in the form of email archives.  However, I would like to
suggest that a web page be dedicated to this somewhere which contains
only how-to type information.  This should make is a little easier for
people to find the information that they are looking for.

The second section would be the current type of documentation found on
the jakarta site.  This would have to be submitted in whatever form is
required by Anakia.  It would make sense that if it were easier for
users to submit documentation and see that it is published for everyone
else to see, they might be more likely to take a few extra minutes to
document solutions that they had to research.

Also, by looking at the submissions to the user supplied documentation
site, it would be easier to determine where the "official" turbine
documentation really need to be improved.  We might even see a few
people in the community who are interested specifically in improving the
documentation make more progress in this area under this type of scheme.

A perfect example of this is how to use transactions.  I am currently
migrating from 2.1 to 2.2rc1.  When I wrote my code in 2.1 for
transactions, I had to go through the javadocs to figure out how to
accomplish the task.  Not that it was very difficult but it would have
been nice if a "suggested method" for using transactions was documented
somewhere.  In 2.2, the method for using transactions appears to have
changed.

I would not mind at all writing a small how-to on this little issue. 
However, if the requirements for me to do this is to figure out some
specific format, I would be more prone to put it off until I have more
time to dedicate to it.  


On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 09:46, Mitch Christensen wrote:

> I suspect we are using Anakia for generation of the Turbine site.  If so,
> any documentation must be formatted in XML, per the Anakia requirements.
> Can someone validate this?
> 
> What is mechanism for submission?  If I write what I believe to be a
> beneficial howto, who decides that it has applicability, and incorporates it
> into the Anakia tree and regenerates the site?
> 
> Could it be that lack of a formal process in the reason there is
> insufficient/outdated documentation?
> 
> -Mitch
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quinton McCombs [mailto:qmccombs@;nequalsone.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:30 AM
> To: Turbine Users List
> Subject: Re: Documentation (was: Re: Thanks)
> 
> 
> Another idea for documentation could be something similar to the Linux
> Documentation Project.  This would allow documents of varying scope.
> For example a very small how-to could be on transactions.
> 
> A much larger how-to could be on intake or extending the turbine schema.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 18:37, Scott Eade wrote:
> 
> > Great.  For new documents we should aim for at least an outline before
> we
> > add them as works in progress.  If you intend working on these through
> to a
> > level of semi-completion then you should look at the existing xdocs
> and use
> > that format (it is really very easy).
> >
> > I can't recall where the xdoc documentation resides, bit it is fairly
> easy
> > to follow an example - e.g.:
> >
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-turbine-2/xdocs/howto/extend-user-
> howt
> > o.xml?rev=1.7&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Scott
> 
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