Chris,
   Thanks for your input.  If anyone else wants to share how they
are using Turbine or how it shouldn't be used, I would welcome
the input.


mike



On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 12:23:27PM -0400, Chris Kimpton wrote:
> > Here are our issues:
> 
> > It sounds crazy but I think the documentation written is  turbine-centric; 
> > meaning it seems to have been written by someone who is too close to the 
> > topic.  Several people have read the documentation and still can't explain
> > exactly what it is.  I would welcome more description from people who
> > are using turbine.
> 
> Turbine is a Java servlet based tool, with some integration into other options - 
>specifically webmacro, which is a templates solution to the designer/coder split of 
>work - that is, designers generally work in html, producing files that have webmacro 
>codes in them, which the server side then expands to display to the client.  All the 
>code/business code will be done in Java, called from Turbine.
> 
> Try this link for general info on the design - 
>http://www.zend.com/zend/art/free-energy.php
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Several of our group members are non-java people.  They write scripts 
> > in perl for network management, snmp data gathering, as well as
> > using the output of programs like mrtg and cricket draw to 
> > display 
> > router information on a web page.  Can these tools be integrated with turbine?  
> 
> I would think not - unless you can access the data from Java - either directly or 
>via some kind of intermediary, eg a flat file or database.
> 
> > Is it for servlets only?  Can a non-java developer produce a 
> > piece of 
> > code (e.g. cgi script) written in (c/c++/pyton/perl) and integrate 
> > it easily within the turbine framework?
> 
> I would think not on this too - if you have html designers and java coders, then yes 
>- but perl/python etc - you might be spending too much time integrating - there might 
>be something more appropriate for your skills (is their a Turbine in perl?)
> 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Chris
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