Carrot and stick... On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Joe Ryan <jrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The reason the Chiefs are playing in London this week and gave up a home > game with Detroit is that the NFL said if you want to host the Super Bowl, > you have to play a game in London. No other reason. > > > http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/Chiefs-Chairman-and-CEO-Clark-Hunt-Clarifies-London-Super-Bowl-Connection/1fa176f5-98a9-4a20-b031-20d25062cfbe > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Adam Bowie <a...@adambowie.co.uk> wrote: > >> I'm never sure how attachments work on Google Groups, so below are some >> links to some screengrabs. >> >> Note that because they come from iPlayer they have an additional BBC >> transparent bug in the top left that doesn't appear on live broadcasts. >> >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9ga8N37qzidM1NrOWM0MzE5aGs >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9ga8N37qzidejhzU1lKSU5oNFU >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9ga8N37qziddld5alUzeW9vX1U >> >> A couple of things to note: >> >> - The BBC uses the same on-pitch overlays and graphics showing yardage >> - There's no indication of remaining timeouts >> - There's no pop-up saying "Touchdown" when there's a score. The >> scorecard just ticks over >> - You can't tell from the grab, but because the clock is actually a >> camera pointed at what I assume is a stadium clock, it's constantly rocking >> when the stadium rocks - i.e when those 4th quarter touchdowns were coming >> in. I'm sure I remember that's how things used to work in the old days with >> NFL. Back in the 80s perhaps? That's when the UK first got regular coverage. >> >> As for your solution for choosing teams to play abroad, it's an >> interesting model. The only thing I'd note is that the NFL is clearly >> trying to *sell* the game internationally. And if you only give the UK dull >> fixtures with losing teams that nobody cares about, then they won't do >> that. But then I'm basically against the whole thing anyway :-) >> >> >> Adam >> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Joe Hass <hassgoc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:36 AM Adam Bowie <a...@adambowie.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Joe Hass <hassgoc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> To pivot this slightly, what the NFL has yet to do is put a game in >>>>> London that would (in theory) be a moderately compelling match up. In the >>>>> 14 games played as part of the "International Series", this was the first >>>>> year where a intradivisional game was played (Jets/Dolphins). Nine have >>>>> been interconference. >>>>> >>>>> And with Jacksonville (the one team that needs to be relocated but >>>>> isn't) in one game for each of the next five years, I don't see that trend >>>>> changing soon >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Surely that's because they wouldn't dare to remove a big game from a >>>> side's home schedule and take it to London? Given that an NFL side only has >>>> 8 guaranteed home fixtures a season, it's quite a move to give up one of >>>> those ties. >>>> >>>> Indeed if the boot was on the other foot, and I was told that this >>>> season, Arsenal v Man United was going to played in New York, I'd be really >>>> upset. I mean *really* upset. And we get 19 home ties a season for Premier >>>> League football. >>>> >>>> It's actually for this reason that I no longer go along to any of the >>>> London games. It doesn't seem fair to home fans of sides playing that >>>> they're deprived of a home tie. >>>> >>>> Now it'd be a different case if the Jaguars became a London side, >>>> something that is off-mooted. But I'm not convinced the numbers stack up >>>> yet. Never mind the logistical challenges of stacks of transatlantic >>>> flights with jet-lag, and kick-offs that could never be anything but 2pm >>>> EST games or earlier in the US. (We did enjoy the fact that Miami brought >>>> it's own toilet tissue with it this year!) >>>> >>>> For starters, they have to work hard to sell out these games, and >>>> they're not quite doing that. Wembley holds 90,000 seated. They close off a >>>> few rows at the front for NFL fixtures, but there were definitely empty >>>> seats on Sunday. And that's despite having "fan rallys" in Trafalgar Square >>>> and closing off Regent Street. I get the NFL UK emails and there are always >>>> tickets available. >>>> >>>> A smaller stadium like Spurs' new one, a possible site for future NFL >>>> games, would help, but it's not as though we're short of sporting >>>> opportunities in London. >>>> >>>> Finally, a note on the UK transmission of Sunday's game. It was live on >>>> Sky Sports as most NFL games are - they effectively had four games back to >>>> back for most of Sunday. But it was also live on BBC Two which is free to >>>> air. I strongly suspect that the NFL gives very favourable rates to get BBC >>>> coverage. It promotes the sport. Anyway, BBC Two ran its own graphics >>>> package alongside the regular (CBS?) commentary team. Switching between Sky >>>> and BBC coverage you could see the two. I believe sports graphics are >>>> effectively data + CSS-style display information, and the BBC chose to use >>>> it's own display format. The only bit they couldn't seem to do was the >>>> clock, so it was old school camera-pointed-at-stadium-clock and in vision. >>>> >>> >>> If there are any screen grabs you have of the BBC package, I'd love to >>> see it. >>> >>> As for the unfairness of losing a home game, here's my top-of-the-head >>> solution: >>> * Take all divisional pairings where both teams have >=.500 records >>> * A team that makes the playoffs is exempt from losing a home game, so >>> eliminate any pairings where both teams made the playoffs. >>> * The lowest attendance by combined percentage of the two teams goes, >>> and the lowest attendance loses the home game >>> >>> Using the 2014 schedule (asterisk indicates a playoff team). >>> AFC East: NE*, BUF, MIA >>> AFC North: None (all teams with winning records made the playoffs) >>> AFC South: IND*, HOU >>> AFC West: DEN*, KC, SD >>> NFC East: DAL*, PHI >>> NFC North: None (all teams with winning records made the playoffs) >>> NFC South: None (no one had a winning record) >>> NFC West: SEA*, ARI*, SF (the Seattle/Arizona pairing is discarded) >>> >>> Of the 10 pairings, the worst was Buffalo/Miami, with a combined >>> percentage of 185.1. Buffalo had the lower attendance, so they lose the >>> home game. >>> >>> This gives an incentive to the fans to show up to the games >>> >>> This obviously doesn't guarantee a high-quality game, but you at least >>> get one game on the board that has a higher level of importance. >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> TV or Not TV .... 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