Well, we have seen over the last decade that outrage can fuel, political success, I’m not sure that grievance politics really fits into the Democrats MO. Also, I’m not sure it’s fair to judge Kimmel in terms of how successful of political operative he was being. Part of his role is to use Humor to Critique and challenge the powerful, But it is not really to organize the opposition to overthrow the current administration.
I also I’m not a huge Jimmy Kimmel fan. I don’t dislike him, when I do watch a late night talk show these days. It’s usually Colbert. I do watch clips on YouTube and I believe I am recording his program every night and if I hear of something particularly interesting or funny, I may check it out, but I have no deep investment in his particular brand or show. But I do respect him and his approach to the job, And sometime ago, I came to realize that, even though Colbert took over the desk from Dave, Kimmel is really more the heir to Dave’s approach than anyone else working these days. Kim gave me everything I wanted to see in that return show, And I believe he has laid the foundation for this incident being one of the turning points, if there ever is going to be a turning point. Sent from Gmail Mobile On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 at 11:28 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > One of the things I felt was lacking was the same thing I felt was lacking > from the Obama administration: Outrage. > > They tried to crucify him. They tried to set aside 250 years of legally > allowed freedom to crucify him. I’m not even a fan of Kimmel and it > infuriated me. It makes sense to me that progressives are generally thought > to be kinder and more forgiving than conservatives, but this administration > applied political force on a comic. There is no legal justification for > that. > > One of the other things that was missing: a specific call to action. > > This was an opportunity to say “Write your representatives” or “reach out > to the advertisers who supported the censorship” or “we ride at dawn.” But > nothing. > > Kimmel himself said this wasn’t about him, but he had an opportunity to > spark a response, not as a politician, but as a citizen who suffered abuse > at the hands of his government. And that’s a lost opportunity. And > progressives are running out of opportunities. > > Kevin M. (RPCV) > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 9:59 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I thought you got in a few good punches, even before the commercial break >> and even before the heartfelt comments. >> >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> >> >> On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 at 7:18 AM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The Kimmel suspension stayed in the news headlines all week and in his >>> return he gave a good performance for his extended audience, whether they >>> watched him on TV, YouTube, or read articles about the monologue. He sent >>> the heartfelt message in the part before the commercial break and went back >>> to skewering the administration after. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 3:08 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I don’t know. I was known as a pretty tough grader in my days as a >>>> college professor, but I give Kimmel’s opening monologue an A+. He was >>>> funny and he was unapologetic and he said everything he had planned to say >>>> the night he was suspended, he didn’t say anything he didn’t believe, >>>> he doubled down on his condemnation of Trump and his henchmen, he was >>>> emotional and genuine in his grief for the murder of a young man and the >>>> loss to his family and friends and moved by his widow’s forgiveness of her >>>> husband’s murderer. >>>> >>>> I actually don’t know what more he should or could have said, or how he >>>> could have said it better. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 at 10:40 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Over a million views in one hour. And you know the idiot in the White >>>>> House watched it on his phone since the DC affiliate isn’t carrying JKL. >>>>> >>>>> https://youtu.be/c1tjh_ZO_tY >>>>> >>>>> I think Kimmel did ok, but he could’ve gone farther. Then again, >>>>> thanks to Trump, Kimmel still has a bullseye on his chest, so perhaps he >>>>> exercised some caution. >>>>> >>>>> Kevin M. (RPCV) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 12:40 PM 'Bob F' via TVorNotTV < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "And now some news from the Department of Awkward Timing," begins >>>>>> this Deadline piece from Dade Hayes; note after *die Maus*' name: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://deadline.com/2025/09/disney-raising-prices-streaming-hulu-bundle-jimmy-kimmel-1236553573/ >>>>>> (link) >>>>>> B >>>>>> >>>>>> PGage, to Kevin M and moi, Sept 22nd: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the bar here is simply does. He apologize for what he said? >>>>>> If he does, then he caved into Disney and he is done much more harm than >>>>>> good for the cause of freedom. 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