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Sam and others seem to imply that POPL, PLDI, ICFP, OOPSLA may be considered — or may usefully develop into being — fungible presentation and meeting events for PL research spaced across the calendar and continents. If POPL won’t do (scary US, too far awa), present and attend at nearby PLDI, etc. That’s an interesting thought. We already have PACMPL as the overarching journal for, by now, all of them. (With OA to boot.) Getting visas and how long that takes, getting to places and affording that in time and money, plus the luckily-rare-but-nonzero prospect of truly unpleasant personal consequences, have been a significant factor for Russians, Chinese Indians and others to various degrees for many years (less so for Americans, Japanese and Europeans). Maybe the present volatile — dare I say scary? — context of US politics can serve as a burning platform for discussing and maybe eventually even effecting changes to PL business as usual such as coordinating the PACMPL meetings as Sam suggests. F PS: Derek, you write that the present discussions should best move to a broader SIGPLAN community platform. I’m thankful for having discovered and being able to follow this discussion via Types — is there a broader open platform for all of SIGPLAN that includes both card-carrying members and ordinary PL aficionados broadly? PPS: Not copying the previous posts since top posting is an O(n^2) algorithm. Fritz Henglein +45-30589576
