Glenn just upgrading from parchment to paper will save the lives of many goats and you won't need to spend all those hours scraping the skins to the right thinness, before you can use it.
I find also that quills have a nasty tendency to drip "Is that line of code X = 45? or does it say "No sex after 45?" The difference could be staggering. -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Sallis <u...@glennsallis.de> To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 1:52 pm Subject: Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS Doug, The notion of lines of code being a measure of productivity makes me neasy. It is possible for someone to write 500 lines of efficient code using ED hich solve the problem at hand, in half the time than another developer ho writes 1000 lines of badly structured code to solve the same problem sing "GUI Editor X". So yes, to a certain extent the tool you use can help, but whether money s saved or not depends heavily on the mind and skills of the person sing the tool. As for me, I am still writing my code using Quills and Parchment, and till have a solution faster than using other mainstream technologies, lthough I do plan to upgrade to vi or ED at some point ;-) Glenn Am 01.09.2011 22:36, schrieb Doug Averch: Hi Mecki: Let us say, for example, that you can produce 60 lines of debugged code per hour. You cost the company $60.00 per hour including benefits. So the cost of each line of code is $1.00. You will produce in theory (160/hrs*60) 9600 lines of code per month for a cost of $9600.00. This amazing tool from U2logic comes along and you produce a extra 10 lines of code per hour. You will produce in theory 160/hrs*70) 9670 line of code for the same cost of 9600.00 saving the company $70.00. So the $49.00 you pay U2logic, pays for itself in about a month in this scenario. This math works if you productivity is only increase by one line per hour. You only have to have 49 programming hours in this Eclipse based tool to pay for it, or about a week and two days. We use this tool everyday and so does many U2 programmers throughout the world. We know I'm more productive than I was using any of my former tools: VI, or EMACS, or Notepad, or AE, or ED. If you are not a programmer, then this, or any tool, as limited value. But for the rest of us and our boss, they want us productive and our code clean. After being at Fortune 1000 companies and showing our software applications, we would not dare to show anyone how we have to edit program using the built-in editors in Unidata and Universe. Before we developed our Eclipse based editor, every CIO or CTO or CEO or just middle management asked us all of the time: Is this a DOS tool? Of course not we would answer and not get the sale! Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com/tools.html "XLr8Editor for real U2 programmers" On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Mecki Foerthmann<mec...@gmx.net> wrote: > Doug, > How does my company save money if they have to buy and pay an annual > license fee for an editor? > They might as well ban going to the toilet or making and drinking coffee > during working hours. > I probably could be even more productive if the company would pay ME more > and not you. > > I can understand that it must be frustrating for you having spent a lot of > time developing a piece of software that nobody wants to buy. > But threatening that we will all loose our jobs and be replaced by 25 year > old kids with no clue if we don't convince our boss to buy your tool won't > change that. > Writing code is time wise the least of my daily tasks. > And I guess like me most of us here are analysts first and coders last. > > Mecki _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
