If the universe server is on windows XP (or windows 2000/nt or I think windows server 2003) you can use services.msc to allow the universe telnet server service access to the desktop (there's a checkbox in the log in tab). Of course that's only useful if you're a desktop user on the server (remote desktop counts as well). But beginning with windows vista, services are no longer allowed interaction with the user desktop at all (under some circumstances windows will tell the desktop user that there's a program trying to talk to them, and acknowledging that will open a virtual desktop with the program in it, but otherwise the program does hang in limbo). I think that change bit a lot of people (and is still waiting to bite some people who are still using XP).
There are workarounds. For example, you can use Accuterm's scripting which allows the server to send a control string telling Accuterm to run a program on the user's desktop. Or you can have a listening program running on your desktop, and the server can connect to it and tell it to open desktop windows. On Feb 15, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Wjhonson wrote: > > Thanks. What I was saying was that *if* you DOS /c cmd > And that cmd requires input, a task will be created that never dies, > evidently. > Or perhaps it was because the cmd I was trying to use was "ftp" perhaps > that's the culprit that creates the undead task. > Once I killed all the jobs in the Windows Task Manager, the Universe jobs > died on their own. > Before I did that, you could not kill those jobs even in UniAdmin. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Houben <robert.hou...@fwic.net> > To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> > Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 4:11 pm > Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command > > > It depends... You are in DOS mode (as opposed to window mode). If you launch > nything that requires a graphical environment, it will launch that > environment > s LocalSystem or something equivalent and you'll have a problem (you can > nd-task in task-manager - you've probably already figured that out). In > heory, you can execute just cmd.exe (with no /c option) and you will be able > to > rovide it input through the keyboard. You just can't do anything that > requires > indow mode. > -----Original Message----- > rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] > n Behalf Of Wjhonson > ent: February-15-12 3:57 PM > o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command > > h.... wow. > rm.... > So any command that requires input will hang, I got that, because it's not > ctually opening an interactive session with *your process* but rather with > the > erver (or thereabouts). > So I just connected to the server and checked Task Manager and there are a > lot > f processes with my name on them from failed attempts where some input was > equested. > Which also tells me why files weren't closing and updating, and why I was > etting errors that files were still in use and so on. > > > > > ----Original Message----- > rom: Ed Clark <u...@edclark.net> > o: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> > ent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 3:35 pm > ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command > > eah, they left that out. If you look at the docs for the SH. CSH, and VI > mmands, they suggest that you look at the unix documentation on those > ommands, > ut they don't mention it in the manual for DOS. Maybe they assumed ou would > igure that out by looking at the VOC entry: > DOS > 1 V > 2 cmd.exe > 3 U > 4 TICERGM > 7 /Q > he U on line 3 of the VOC means that running the verb will execute line 2 as > an > command and pass the rest of the command line to the os command. If you anted > o you could create your own verbs like this, for example if you have ygwin > nstalled you could run the cygwin shell instead of the cmd.exe shell. > is is more useful on unix than on windows, because the command needs to run > in > e console and not try to open desktop windows. If, for example, you try to > run > TEPAD.EXE like this, your terminal will hang because notepad is running > mewhere in a virtual desktop that you can't get to. > f you try to use the SH verb on windows, or the DOS verb on unix, you get a > ssage telling you the command doesn't work on your OS. The "E" on line 4 of > he > oc controls this. Verbs with an E run on windows but not on unix. (There's > hapter on this in the system description manual). > n Feb 15, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Wjhonson wrote: > > I mean they are not document in the Universe manuals for the DOS command > ecutable at TCL. > You only get the /c > It doesn't even tell you where to go to get more information. > Like "There are other options, go to Dos and type cmd /?" > .... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Houben <robert.hou...@fwic.net> > To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> > Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 1:00 pm > Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command > > They actually do document these. Go to a command prompt and type: > cmd /? > Or > help cmd > (Both produce the same output) > Enjoy! > -----Original Message----- > rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] > n Behalf Of Wjhonson > ent: February-15-12 11:00 AM > o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command > h... My... God > mazing > try DOS /C DIR > hen try DOS /K DIR > how come they don't document this and we have to make guesses? > -----Original Message----- > rom: Bob Rasmussen <r...@anzio.com> > o: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> > ent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:38 am > ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command > n educated guess would be that the DOS command invokes the command rocessor > ommand.com in long-ago Windows, cmd.exe now) and passes the \c" (or is it > /c"?) to it. > f in Windows you open a CMD prompt, and type cmd /? > u can see what options it accepts. My output includes: > /C Carries out the command specified by string and then terminates > urther down the help display, it gives more information. > n Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Wjhonson wrote: > The DOS command in Universe takes a "/c" argument and then you can specify a > t > le like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? 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