YES! I guess you google SAP and BANKRUPTCY ?


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Israel, John R. <
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com> wrote:

> Is this it?
>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=awweg53wmmJw&refer=germany
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Horacio Pellegrino
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:16 PM
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: Re: [U2] File Sizing using concurrent option AND FAREWELL
>
> I remember a company that went bankrupt because they spent so much in SAP
> ( or was it Oracle? ) It was in the news.
>
> Anybody?
>
> HP
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Dawn Wolthuis <dw...@tincat-group.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I have only seen SAP implementations from a bit of a distance and
> > through reading stories, but in every case, my understanding was that
> > those in charge of the project were gone before SAP went live. I have
> > seen systems analysts and programmers survive the project, with plenty
> > of stories once they do. It sounds like a really brutal ERP
> > installation. I have not kept current on this front enough to know
> > that people were still selecting it, although a whole lot of people
> > are still maintaining it.
> >
> > Best wishes, Scott, and thanks for taking the time to write up your
> > notes regarding some of those in the industry who have helped you.
> > Cheers!  --dawn
> >
> > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Holt, Jake <jh...@samsill.com> wrote:
> > > I thought no one actually ever finished implementing SAP?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> > u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of
> > iggch...@comcast.net
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:31 PM
> > > To: U2 Users List
> > > Subject: Re: [U2] File Sizing using concurrent option AND FAREWELL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Don't worry, we're not going to implement anything that's going to
> > > do
> > damage.  Well, unless you call the outrageous cost a damage :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Any thoughts on the CONCURRENT option?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Wjhonson" <wjhon...@aol.com>
> > > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:14:19 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [U2] File Sizing using concurrent option AND FAREWELL
> > >
> > >
> > > Well you used to be.  After SAP sucks ten years out of the life of
> > > your
> > company, we'll see
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > << I am being moved to our corporate office to join a eam of 10 who
> > > will
> > be learning, configuring, and customizing SAP to meet the eeds of the
> > best wine and spirits distribution company  in the world.  Ok, I'm
> > >  little partial...  >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: iggchamp <iggch...@comcast.net>
> > > To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
> > > Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 11:11 am
> > > Subject: [U2] File Sizing using concurrent option AND FAREWELL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > uv 10.2.7 / hpux 11.11
> > >
> > > First things first (skip this section if you don't care for
> goodbyes)...
> > >
> > >
> > > I wanted to say thanks to all of the contributors to this list.  I
> > > have
> > learned
> > >  tremendous amount from all of you.  The passion that many of you
> > > have
> > for your ork is really inspiring.  I am being moved to our corporate
> > office to join a eam of 10 who will be learning, configuring, and
> > customizing SAP to meet the eeds of the best wine and spirits
> > distribution company  in the world.  Ok, I'm
> > >  little partial...   All of you deserve a great deal of credit for my
> > pportunity as you have all contributed to the things that I've been
> > able to ccomplish with my current system.  Without the great system
> > that we here in llinois have developed, I'm sure that noone would
> > trust in my abilities to eliver in a different environment.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > blockquote>
> > >
> > >  special thanks to a couple of people I have been blessed to work
> > directly ith.  I cannot recommend their services enough!
> > > /blockquote>
> > >
> > >
> > > blockquote>
> > >
> > >
> > > ony Gravagno ( http://www.nebula-rnd.com/ ):  When each division of
> > > SWS
> > was
> > > sked to provide a web service that would interface our sales force
> > automation
> > > nits to our business systems, I was terrified.  I had never had the
> > opportunity
> > > o work with web technology and, based on a heavy workload, did not
> > > have
> > the
> > > ime to dive in at that time.  I did take the web developer that
> > > Universe ffered for a spin.  Pretty cool tool.  While I was able to
> > > develop a web ervice that could work had I set the requirements
> > > myself, I could not
> > get it to
> > > eet the requirements that corporate was developed.  I even worked
> > > with
> > one of
> > > he IBM engineers and he could not get it done.  Keep in mind that I
> > > have
> > always
> > > elieved in my abilities to provide solid solutions using the tools
> > > that
> > we have
> > > n the multivalue world.  It killed me to have to bring in a resource
> > from the
> > > utside.  I swallowed my pride and turned to Tony.  I was amazed at
> > > the ncredible service that he provided.  He developed a service for
> > > me that
> > has
> > > een rock solid.  I am still amazed that I have never had to revisit
> > > it
> > after
> > > ears of pounding by our sales force.  This is plug, play, and forget
> > about it
> > > t its best!  Not only that but our web service which provides
> > > incredibly owerful and complicated pricing blows the web service
> > > developed on our orporate as400 system out of the water from a
> performance standpoint.
> >  Thanks
> > > ony, you've made me look a lot better than I really am :)
> > > /blockquote>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > eff Fitzerald ( http://www.fitzlong.com/ ):  Your write-ups on file
> > performance
> > > ave really helped me to ensure that our system is always operating
> > > at a
> > high
> > > evel.  I wish I could get everyone around here to read it.  I was
> > > also ortunate enough to have been allowed to use your file
> > > maintenance
> > product -
> > > AST.  I can't tell you how much time that this saved me.  When I
> > > first
> > arrived
> > > t this company, all the files were dynamic.   I made the mistake of
> > converting
> > > hem all to static because I believed the performance was much
> > > better.  I
> > was
> > > ight and the system was screaming.  The reason I use "mistake" is
> > > that it brought me into a whole new world of ensuring the thousands
> > > of files
> > used by
> > > he application continued to perform by spending all my weekends sizing.
> >  Yuck!
> > > y allowing me to break away from managing the monster that I had
> > > created
> > by
> > > sing your product, I had my weekends free again.  Yay!  Not only
> > > that,
> > your
> > > roduct was doing a much better job than I ever did.  Unfortunately,
> > budgets
> > > ere cut and  I could no longer continue to use it.   Thanks Jeff, you
> > helped me
> > > o spend my time moving the company forward by developing great tools
> > rather
> > > han maintaining files.
> > > /blockquote>
> > >
> > >
> > > ILE SIZING question:
> > >
> > > As mentioned, I'm moving on.  Before leaving I'm trying my best to
> > > ease
> > the
> > > urden on my friends  here in Illinois by automating many of the
> > > things
> > that I
> > > ever got around to doing for myself .  That being said, I put
> > > together a outine that will analyze our files and resize as
> > > necessary.  It's pretty
> > slick
> > > ut not near the software offered by fitzlong.com - refer to previous
> > section.
> > >
> > > I would like to set it up to execute from cron so that noone has to
> > babysit.
> > > eing the scaredy cat that I am, I've always phantomed off the
> > > process and onitored over the weekend to ensure that noone is
> > > accessing the files in uestion.  I put the CONCURRENT option in
> > > there as a safeguard but never
> > really
> > > rusted it enough to turn the program loose without policing.
> > >
> > > My questions regarding CONCURRENT  are these:
> > >     1.   Is the option trustworthy enough to use on a live system while
> > users
> > > re possibly accessing the files?
> > >    2. Are there any sort of performance issues?  In other words,
> > > would a
> > file
> > > hat takes 2 hours to size take 8 hours to size while users are
> > accessing?  The
> > > outine keeps a history of various statistics including how much time
> > > it
> > took to
> > > o its business.
> > >    3. Does it slow the application that is accessing the file?
> > >    4. Any other considerations?
> > >
> > >
> > > hanks in advance for your response  and for all of the tremendous
> > > help
> > that
> > > ou've all been over the years.
> > >
> > > Scott Thompson
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> >
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