it means quite simply that you must purchase sufficient Connection Pools to handle the likely traffic. You cannot use your own queueing mechanisms in their place (and notice the word "logical" before open connection -work out what that means).
But you will have to work out the financial implications of that and whether U2 is financially tenable for what you want: whether your website would be delivering sufficient value to you per user (as an ecommerce site should) or is based on a model of very small values from a very large catchment population (e.g. backing a popular 0.99 dollar app). I guess Rocket must have the sales figures to show that the income from connection pooling makes this restriction worthwhile. Brian Sent from my iPad On 3 Jun 2012, at 07:22, Robert Houben <robert.hou...@fwic.net> wrote: > I should clarify my question. What is the legality behind licensing a SaaS > (or BPaaS) offering with a U2 system behind it? > > I believe at one point there were terms of use in the user license that made > a SaaS implementation potentially impractical. > > BTW, believe it or not, providing Microsoft products in a SaaS environment is > a violation of their license agreement, unless you get a special variant of > their licenses (these raise the price significantly). This is little known, > and to date Microsoft has not been aggressive in enforcing it, but that > apparently might be about to change. > > U2, to my knowledge requires a special type of network license if you are > going to provide pooled connections of any sort (e.g. through a web server.) > The special terms to look up seem to be "Connection Pooling" and "Concurrent > User". My initial read of the section describing these is that if I have > potentially 2 million different users who may use my service through > web-based connection pooling through the term of the license, (even if not > concurrently), I must have licenses enough (2 million of them) to support > this. I copy the block of text at the bottom of this message from a copy of > the license agreement that I have (possibly out of date - that's part of the > question). Their definition of Concurrent seems a bit odd... > > (BTW, I agree: I would *never* use an unprotected telnet session over the > internet. I would be inclined to have the U2 server hiding behind a good > solid commercial grade web server.) > > "Connection Pooling (CP): Licensee is not authorized to enable or engage in > Connection Pooling unless Licensee is able to count and acquire required > Concurrent Session or Concurrent User entitlements covering all unique > individuals or single, unique instances of a software application that might > process transactions using the Program. CP session entitlements [ which would > cover use by any and all unique individuals or unique single instances of > software programs over a single logical open, persistent connection ] are > optionally available for purchase for use with the Workgroup Edition, but are > limited to a maximum of two (2) CP sessions. Enterprise Edition is offered > with two (2) initial Rocket CP sessions with optional additional CP session > entitlements available for purchase." > > "... that might process transactions..." This would effectively blow any SaaS > or BPaaS option out of the water for a U2 based application. I may be > misunderstanding the above, or there may be a different license available > somewhere, hence my question. > > Thank you, > > Robert Houben > IBM Certified Solution Advisor and Architect - Cloud Computing Architecture > Chief Technology Officer > FusionWare Integration Corp. > p: 604-777-4254 x158 > f: 604-608-5544 > http://www.fwic.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King > Sent: June-02-12 4:04 PM > To: U2 Users List > Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud > > Just so I'm clear... what exactly would be different about such a license? > Seems to me the typical licensing terms would work just fine, as long as you > have enough seats to handle the traffic. I would, however, be concerned > about opening up the telnet port on a cloud architecture. > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Robert Houben <robert.hou...@fwic.net>wrote: > >> Does Rocket license Universe or Unidata for use in the cloud? >> >> Robert Houben >> IBM Certified Solution Advisor and Architect - Cloud Computing >> Architecture Chief Technology Officer FusionWare Integration Corp. >> p: 604-777-4254 x158 >> f: 604-608-5544 >> http://www.fwic.net<http://www.fwic.net/> >> LinkedIn < >> http://www.linkedin.com/company/fusionware-integration-corp.?trk=fc_ba >> dge> Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/fusionwareint> FaceBook< >> http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/New-Westminster-BC/FusionWare-Integra >> tion-Corp/115116258510923 >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> U2-Users mailing list >> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users >> > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
